theguatemalian
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`So what effect did the 6-7 cotton balls have on the sound?
`So what effect did the 6-7 cotton balls have on the sound?
I have one set like this:
1. Super mass loaded plasticine in the back of the baffles
2. Paxmate Plus in the bottom of the cups, not on the cup walls or central compartment that houses the main screw for the headband hangers
3. Stock black bass port felt uncovered
4. 2 layers of 3M flexible clear (Transpore) tape on the back of the drivers after removing the stock white driver felt
5. 1/2 inch roll of gauze 2 inches long under the back of each stock ear pad; held in place temporarily with electrical tape
This offers a lot of bass that does not bleed into the midrange, clear midrange vocals that are neither too forward nor too recessed, and crystal clear highs with sparkle on high hats, chimes, and bells. It's actually got too much bass for me so I tuned it down with Paxmate over 3 of the 4 bass port slots. Another bass tuning approach would be to add another 1/2 layer or full layer of Transpore tape over the back of the drivers but this might effect the mids and/or treble. Worth a try, but I know closing 3 of 4 bass port slots works for me.
Keep at it until you get it to sound the way you like.
i have been using your mod for a long time. except i used micropore instead of transpore, as you know. i think i got used to the sound of transpore, it doesn't seem bright at all now, it's just that the sound is more detailed and the bass is cleaner than before.
i want to replace the earpads but i can't find Fischer 003 earpads on ebay and amazon, someone here said shure pads don't sound different than lifted stock pads, and O2 at 120$ is too much for earpads IMO. are there any other options?
Sennheiser HD 280, Solo Beats and ATH-M50 pads look good, but did anyone try them before? do they even fit the T50RP?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sennheiser-HD-280-Pro-Replacement-Earpads-Earpads-HD280Pro-pr-/180736466994?pt=DJ_Gear_Lighting&hash=item2a14bba032
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50-Ear-Pad-ATH-M50-Ear-Pad-ea-/110750775808?pt=DJ_Gear_Lighting&hash=item19c942ba00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EAR-PADS-SOLO-MONSTER-BEATS-DR-DRE-Headphone-PADS-AUTHENTIC-PRODUCT-/330631640222?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4cfb2e749e
On a side note these little buggers are hard to get. I nearly had a heart attack when I notice the restock date change from 10-26-2011 to 12-2-2011 on my order from Front End Audio. Lucky for me that only applies to new orders and mine should be shipping out soon.
So here's a question for all you guys.
I sat at my Bijou tube amp last night and really had a close listen to my Dahminators. I was focusing on everything, and trying to compare to how all these the sounds should sound like in real life. Here's what I found:
- There is a bit of lack of detail in the highs. I'm afraid if I push the highs further though, I will lose some great qualities
- The mids and upper mids sound very close to reality. They are just a tad darker, but it gives you the feeling that the piano, singers, instruments are all in the room with you. Does anyone know how I can brighten the mids a VERY SMALL AMOUNT, while retaining their extremely natural quality?
- The bass is a bit too present. It could tone it down slightly.
Here's why I don't want to close the bass port anymore than I already have in order to fix these minor issues:
Closing the bass port more than about 2/3rd of the way takes away a lot of the natural sounds that I get in the mids and highs. Things start sounding like they are coming from inside a tin can, and they lose their body.
So, if someone has another idea that will retail all the lush natural sound I get, but can tone the bass down slightly, and boost treble ever so slightly, I'd be open to ideas.
Thanks!
EDIT: Here's my current setup:
- Acoustic foam lining the inside of the cups
- Plasticine filled in the baffles, and lots of it (not overdamping)
- Black Creatology felt glued in place of the stock white foam, 1 single layer
- Bass port felt untouched but port is closed about 2/3rds of the way (maybe a bit more) with electrical tape on the outside of the cup
- Stock black felt on the ear side of the baffle has been removed
- Dynamat on the ear side of the baffle
- Two layers of acoustic foam doughnuts over the Dynamat on the ear side of the baffle
- Shure 840 pads with center foam cut out of them
- Leather belt AKG K701-style headband
Hi everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster....well, on this thread at least.
Got my first pair of T50RP's about a week ago. Now up to page 180 on this thread and still going.
Before I start modding I have a couple questions...
1-Just what is so special about the AKASA/Pax-mate foam? That is, is it sound transparent or absorptive? I know everyone is getting good results using it to damp the cups, but I'm not sure exactly what it's doing. It seems a little light to mass damp the plastic housing so I'm assuming it's absorbing the reflections in the cup.
2-Bearing the above question in mind....has anyone tried disassembling the cup and spraying a thin layer of damping coating on the cups ala "Quiet-Kote" ?
I'm thinking that adding a coating to the plastic cup will dampen resonances and the texture will cut down on reflections without removing to much of the volume. After that I'm thinking adding some sort of loose fiber-fill to effectively increase the "space" (not sure if right term, but like a speaker does).
Let me know what y'all think.
-Dogwan
Hi everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster....well, on this thread at least.
2-Bearing the above question in mind....has anyone tried disassembling the cup and spraying a thin layer of damping coating on the cups ala "Quiet-Kote" ?
I'm thinking that adding a coating to the plastic cup will dampen resonances and the texture will cut down on reflections without removing to much of the volume. After that I'm thinking adding some sort of loose fiber-fill to effectively increase the "space" (not sure if right term, but like a speaker does).
Let me know what y'all think.
-Dogwan
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So, if someone has another idea that will retail all the lush natural sound I get, but can tone the bass down slightly, and boost treble ever so slightly, I'd be open to ideas.
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So I think Fostex was onto something putting thin porous paper (ish) stuff behind their more recent orthos including the T20v2 and T50rp. I've been playing with coffee filters and they are my new favorite damping material. I'm going to be getting a bunch of different porous papers to try if I can source that somewhere. I'm thinking an online art store or something. But coffee filters do a much better job than the tapes IME. They bring out more treble while bringing out less upper midrange peaks. And IME they do not constrict the soundstage any more than a thin piece of felt would when placed on the back of the driver. I've been using the coffee filter instead of the first layer of felt in the typical damping scheme, so driver-paper-foam-felt-cups. They work so well at bringing out treble that they can actually get my YH3 to have elevated treble without much of an elevated midrange. Which is a first for me. I actually get some sibilance unless I use a donut instead of a disc, so I'm going to try to find some slightly more porous paper.