you found the westone 4 to have less soundstage than jh5? that was 1 of 2 areas I find the westone 4/4r/w40 to excel over the jh5 is soundstage size, holographic imaging, as well as westones also having a little thicker lush note's in the mids. The only fault I have found on the jh5 is the soundstage and imaging, where it can come off as a little more 2d than the higher end jh models and westone's. Not to say the jh5 is bad in that regard, but I think that the westone 4 is exceptionally good- almost completely closing the gap one the angies for soundstage and imaging... almost...