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@ Sonic!
too many post too quote in the last 8 hours have been asleep!
Glad you like a bass spike on your EQ, but in all honesty can you get to demo a pair of 16' first before you decide to sell your 13's for the 16's, you said the 16's where "WAY" above neutral to the 13's which i think was a exaggeration from my experience, that was before you found you liked the extra bass on the EQ, but the 16's will be different with those extra drivers to just tweaking your EQ on your HI-Fi man and the 16's do sound immediately different straight sway and it is noticeable the extra depths the bass extension to be had which does not detract that they still replicate music in a realistic sense even though the 16's have a tweaked db range on the bass.
Heck if you really wanted a flat neutral sound you would not of gone with the 13's either and found a custom out there that is flat across the board if one of those exist?
As some advice of someone that has listened to both the 13 & 16 demo's and now owns the 16's i personally like them both as much in their own right and if i owned one but had to sell the other i would not do that, i would rather save up or in your case you do have the funds available as you mentioned get the 16's as well, but i STRONGLY recommend you try and demo the 16's first so you know for sure if it is what you really like and not justthe feeling on missing out on a new model that everyone is raving about, even though i am!
Personally i think you would like the 16's but i think you need to find out for yourself and not rely on just spiking your 13's EQ and saying yeah that is what it will be like as a lot of what stupidassdrummer mentioned about the extra bass drivers for the headroom and the reason that they are there and these are i believe different drivers from the 13's so give the 16's a listen and let your own ears decide for themselves. I take it you have a dealer in NY that you can demo them?
For people that also mention the stage use as Jerry intended which is what the 16's where brought out for originally, these are very much at home in the audiophile anoraks dept like us on here as the 13's are and would in the end that did not distract me from on the end choosing the 16's which will never go near a stage for feedback purposes and love the sound they are giving me at the moment from my Arcam FMJ cd player through my Naim Headline amp sounds magical.
If you want that sound that is more raw like at a gig and you really hear and feel that kick drum rather than some of these over elaborated or too polished produced albums you get today the 16's really do come into their own with the extra headroom in the audiophile sense, never heard live recording from cd's like this ever!
Again like the 13's the 16's are just as revealing with bad recordings, i have got a EU copy of Fyfe Dangerfield's latest album and i have not heard such a badly engineered recording since Coldplay's or Metallica's cd's.
too many post too quote in the last 8 hours have been asleep!
Glad you like a bass spike on your EQ, but in all honesty can you get to demo a pair of 16' first before you decide to sell your 13's for the 16's, you said the 16's where "WAY" above neutral to the 13's which i think was a exaggeration from my experience, that was before you found you liked the extra bass on the EQ, but the 16's will be different with those extra drivers to just tweaking your EQ on your HI-Fi man and the 16's do sound immediately different straight sway and it is noticeable the extra depths the bass extension to be had which does not detract that they still replicate music in a realistic sense even though the 16's have a tweaked db range on the bass.
Heck if you really wanted a flat neutral sound you would not of gone with the 13's either and found a custom out there that is flat across the board if one of those exist?
As some advice of someone that has listened to both the 13 & 16 demo's and now owns the 16's i personally like them both as much in their own right and if i owned one but had to sell the other i would not do that, i would rather save up or in your case you do have the funds available as you mentioned get the 16's as well, but i STRONGLY recommend you try and demo the 16's first so you know for sure if it is what you really like and not justthe feeling on missing out on a new model that everyone is raving about, even though i am!
Personally i think you would like the 16's but i think you need to find out for yourself and not rely on just spiking your 13's EQ and saying yeah that is what it will be like as a lot of what stupidassdrummer mentioned about the extra bass drivers for the headroom and the reason that they are there and these are i believe different drivers from the 13's so give the 16's a listen and let your own ears decide for themselves. I take it you have a dealer in NY that you can demo them?
For people that also mention the stage use as Jerry intended which is what the 16's where brought out for originally, these are very much at home in the audiophile anoraks dept like us on here as the 13's are and would in the end that did not distract me from on the end choosing the 16's which will never go near a stage for feedback purposes and love the sound they are giving me at the moment from my Arcam FMJ cd player through my Naim Headline amp sounds magical.
If you want that sound that is more raw like at a gig and you really hear and feel that kick drum rather than some of these over elaborated or too polished produced albums you get today the 16's really do come into their own with the extra headroom in the audiophile sense, never heard live recording from cd's like this ever!
Again like the 13's the 16's are just as revealing with bad recordings, i have got a EU copy of Fyfe Dangerfield's latest album and i have not heard such a badly engineered recording since Coldplay's or Metallica's cd's.
