[andrewchoppa]

A headphone cable is balanced when there is a separate ground for each channel. Does that answer your question?

Haha - I was going to say 2 of them equals stereo, 1 - mono.....Only joking of course but it was a valid question that I didn't understand at the start, as everyone said that 3.5 is SE and 4.4/xlr is balanced. SO 2 x 3.5 would still equal SE, but no. ANd it's ok @fidgeraldo, I've been in the hobby a bit now and still don't understand half of it haha!!!

 

[fidgeraldo]

Does that answer your question?

Hmm...I was thinking about headphone sockets when they are 3.5 mm...
how can I connect the cable with a 3.5 mm dual jack and balanced XLR end?

3.5 mm jacks are always unbalanced?

 

[fidgeraldo]

ANd it's ok @fidgeraldo, I've been in the hobby a bit now and still don't understand half of it haha!!!

Confusing

 

[rwelles]

Hmm...I was thinking about headphone sockets when they are 3.5 mm...
how can I connect the cable with a 3.5 mm dual jack and balanced XLR end?

3.5 mm jacks are always unbalanced?

A balanced audio cable is a completely different beast than a balanced headphone cable. They do share common connectors but the principle is vastly different.

 

[andrewchoppa]

Hmm...I was thinking about headphone sockets when they are 3.5 mm...
how can I connect the cable with a 3.5 mm dual jack and balanced XLR end?

3.5 mm jacks are always unbalanced?

No as @rwelles was saying. 3.5mm headphone cable can be balanced with change in internal wiring.

dual 3.5mm to 6.3mm = single ended always
dual 3.5mm to xlr = balanced

Only exception is if amp is single ended wired but has option for xlr headphone output.

But 95%, dual 3.5mm to xlr is balanced connection.

Does this make sense?

 

[fidgeraldo]

I am interested in practical use I am not just asking for curiosity...I want to buy some L shape adapters and I don't know if I can buy 3.5 mm and connect to a balanced 3.5 mm dual jack cable...I am completely confused

 

[haasaaroni]

Hmm...I was thinking about headphone sockets when they are 3.5 mm...
how can I connect the cable with a 3.5 mm dual jack and balanced XLR end?

3.5 mm jacks are always unbalanced?

I think you’re confusing the amp end with the headphone end. The balancing happens at the amp end, the headphone connectors (3.5mm, 2.5mm, 2-pin, mini XLR, etc), as long as there are two of them, can be whatever style the manufacturer has decided they’d be for their headphones.

 

[fidgeraldo]

Does this make sense?

Completely, if I buy finished cables, they are obviously made as balanced, as you said, rewired.
I have to trust they are.
But in my case...I guess I can't buy these L-shaped adapters and connect balanced cable...just SE 6.3 mm or 3.5 mm.

Even though these 3.5 mm have four poles, I heard that they are not wired as balanced and that the fourth pole is just for the mic.

 

[fidgeraldo]

I think you’re confusing the amp end with the headphone end.

That's for sure.
I am not at home with this, but you probably misread what I wanted:
adapters with a 3.5 mm male on one side and a 3.5 mm female on the other side.

Adapter...not cable

Perhaps I should have been more direct in the beginning.
I wanted a few more insights, and I got them. It's clearer now.

But actually, my question is.., are these 3.5 mm adapters balanced?

Cheers!

 

[andrewchoppa]

That's for sure.
I am not at home with this, but you probably misread what I wanted:
adapters with a 3.5 mm male on one side and a 3.5 mm female on the other side.

Adapter...not cable

I think i'm in over my head at this stage. BUT, you can make a balanced HP cable into single ended with an adapter but you CANNOT go the other way.

So xlr-6.3mm adapter is ok

6.3mm to XLR is not ok when talking headphone cables.

 

[haasaaroni]

That's for sure.
I am not at home with this, but you probably misread what I wanted:
adapters with a 3.5 mm male on one side and a 3.5 mm female on the other side.

Adapter...not cable

Perhaps I should have been more direct in the beginning.
I wanted a few more insights, and I got them. It's clearer now.

But actually, my question is.., are these balanced?



Cheers!

Things are getting more confusing for me now haha

Where do you want to plug these into? Are they going to stick out from the headphones themselves? Or do you have a 3.5mm terminated headphone cable (on the amp end) and you’re hoping that by plugging in an adaptor or will make the cable balanced?

Also yes, what @andrewchoppa said

 

[fidgeraldo]

Or do you have a 3.5mm terminated headphone cable (on the amp end) and you’re hoping that by plugging in an adaptor or will make the cable balanced?

Damn...Verum has those 90-degree f++++ sockets, and I am thinking of buying a new cable, perhaps balanced...
Since I am following this thread, headphones I want in the future...I was thinking I would ask you guys for help

It's not cable an issue...it will be easy to buy one if I can be sure if these adapters are SE or balanced...
I know it's not gonna happen...they are probably SE...but I hoped that they could be balanced

 

[andrewchoppa]

Damn...Verum has those 90-degree f++++ sockets, and I am thinking of buying a new cable, perhaps balanced...
Since I am following this thread, headphones I want in the future...I was thinking I would ask you guys for help

It's not cable an issue...it will be easy to buy one if I can be sure if these adapters are SE or balanced...
I know it's not gonna happen...they are probably SE...but I hoped that they could be balanced

Ok i get you now. And Verum are very good cans for their price!!! I own a few $2k+ cans (aud) and I am thinking of getting myself a pair. I heard them recenyly and was quite impressed. So you mean a right angle 3.mm adapter/extender for each headphone jack so it straightens the cord?

https://www.titanav.co/products/titan-av-1-4-right-angle-trs-stereo-jack-black-gold-plated?currency=AUD&variant=40598992847057&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&stkn=cda15a4acc0f&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmaxcables&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw48-vBhBbEiwAzqrZVAMCQucBArOS9YdPjKpiXYiLUGA0gp7_PGGIiqCwh3aeE4Yweuul8RoCwIkQAvD_BwE

Something like this in 3.5mm??

 

[borkenarrou]

Damn...Verum has those 90-degree f++++ sockets, and I am thinking of buying a new cable, perhaps balanced...
Since I am following this thread, headphones I want in the future...I was thinking I would ask you guys for help

It's not cable an issue...it will be easy to buy one if I can be sure if these adapters are SE or balanced...
I know it's not gonna happen...they are probably SE...but I hoped that they could be balanced

My suggestion is to avoid adapter altogether if possible, there will always be signal loss in one way or another, imho it kind of defeat the purpose for buying a hi-res headphone like H1000 series, I am actually thinking of selling my modular hart audio cables for this reason.

 

[fidgeraldo]

Something like this in 3.5mm??

Yes...but if possible, on the other side with female 3.5 mm...it seems to me that this one is DIY
And again...Yes, Verum is stunning for the price and more...I bought two pairs
How hard is it to connect wires internally?

I see you have JM XTC...another pair on my wish list.