[Beagle]

 
No that's just the nature of Audeze bass.

 
No, that's just the nature of wrong choice of amplification...

 

[intlsubband]

I hope to have the opportunity to demo the different Audeze phones. I'm still not really sure what would the sound differences be between the LCD 3 and LCD X, etc.
 
But I do know that I LOVE the bass on my HE-500... I don't think I ever heard a better bass articulation, in either headphones or speakers.

 

[diamondears]

I hope to have the opportunity to demo the different Audeze phones. I'm still not really sure what would the sound differences be between the LCD 3 and LCD X, etc.

But I do know that I LOVE the bass on my HE-500... I don't think I ever heard a better bass articulation, in either headphones or speakers.

I'm considering buying the older HiFiMANs. The HE-400 looks like tremendous value for money, especially now.

Wish the HE-1000 would be in the same direction (value for money) and would tweak the outside physical design a bit. Still lots of time to do this.

 

[intlsubband]

I'm considering buying the older HiFiMANs. The HE-400 looks like tremendous value for money, especially now.

Wish the HE-1000 would be in the same direction (value for money) and would tweak the outside physical design a bit. Still lots of time to do this.

 
I find it interesting that Audeze were always the "upper class" planars while HiFiMan were "value for money" planars (in as much as headphones that costs hundreds of dollars are 'value'... lol). But at CES they switched roles - Audeze trying to break into the sub-1k market, while HiFiMan debuted their no-holds-barred, yet to be priced TOTL headphone.
 
Any reason why you're looking at the HE-400 and not the HE-500? HE-500 used can be found for 350-400$ these days, which seems like crazy value, and given that HE-500 (for reasons beyond my understanding) are out of production now, I would expect those prices to slowly creep up in the near future.

 

[Stillhart]

I'm considering buying the older HiFiMANs. The HE-400 looks like tremendous value for money, especially now.

Wish the HE-1000 would be in the same direction (value for money) and would tweak the outside physical design a bit. Still lots of time to do this.

 
It's far more likely that they'll price this in stratosphere and then release a trickle-down version later with the same tech in a more affordable package.  
 
Fang has something special here and I don't think we should be encouraging him to water it down.  The pricing may end up being out of our reach and we'll have to accept that.  I surely hope with all my heart that it's not in the $3k range, but if it is, I would certainly understand it.

 

[diamondears]

I find it interesting that Audeze were always the "upper class" planars while HiFiMan were "value for money" planars (in as much as headphones that costs hundreds of dollars are 'value'... lol). But at CES they switched roles - Audeze trying to break into the sub-1k market, while HiFiMan debuted their no-holds-barred, yet to be priced TOTL headphone.

Any reason why you're looking at the HE-400 and not the HE-500? HE-500 used can be found for 350-400$ these days, which seems like crazy value, and given that HE-500 (for reasons beyond my understanding) are out of production now, I would expect those prices to slowly creep up in the near future.

Reason is more value for money, I don't think there's substantial improvement on the HE-500 over the HE-400 for almost double the price. I already have the LCD-2, and I don't think the HE-500 would be much different nor much better.

And I'm intrigued on the HE-400's bass, clarity and resolution. Was chosen among best high-end headphone by CNET, bypassing both HE-500 and HE-6. The list is a price no issue list.

 

[richard51]

Reason is more value for money, I don't think there's substantial improvement on the HE-500 over the HE-400 for almost double the price. I already have the LCD-2, and I don't think the HE-500 would be much different nor much better.

And I'm intrigued on the HE-400's bass, clarity and resolution. Was chosen among best high-end headphone by CNET, bypassing both HE-500 and HE-6. The list is a price no issue list.

i had the basic stax model and the he 400 is very different soundwise but quality wise is in the same league... i enjoyed the two and they are completely different  .... at opposite ends.... great bass for the He 400 ... better clarity for the stax.... impossible to sell one or the other.... for movies i prefered the he 400 ...its more relax....for jazz also....but for classical music stax is better.....impossible choice....i liked them both connected to my marvellous Ember .....best regards  p.s. i dreamed now about the he1000

 

[ThurstonX]

Reason is more value for money, I don't think there's substantial improvement on the HE-500 over the HE-400 for almost double the price. I already have the LCD-2, and I don't think the HE-500 would be much different nor much better.

And I'm intrigued on the HE-400's bass, clarity and resolution. Was chosen among best high-end headphone by CNET, bypassing both HE-500 and HE-6. The list is a price no issue list.

 
Where's the Rasta wit da ganja emo 

 
j/k.  Hit that 400 and enjoy 

 

 

[Happy Camper]

Where's the Rasta wit da ganja emo :eek:

j/k.  Hit that 400 and enjoy   

Honorary fire chief of the Blue Mountain ganga Fire Dept. here If it's burning we're there and this thread was wailing the alarm.

 

[money4me247]

Here are my impressions if anyone is interested. Bass quality is excellent on the HE1000. Very powerful & rich.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/751421/new-york-mini-meet-hifiman-he-1000-impressions-thread/15#post_11238316

 

[diamondears]

Where's the Rasta wit da ganja emo :eek:

j/k.  Hit that 400 and enjoy   

Exactly. A $300 HE-400 bested its own big brothers in that list that includes the HD-800 and LCD-3, among others.

I didn't understand this though: "Rasta wit da ganja emo"???

 

[Chodi]

Exactly. A $300 HE-400 bested its own big brothers in that list that includes the HD-800 and LCD-3, among others.

I didn't understand this though: "Rasta wit da ganja emo"???

I don't think many audiophiles would consider Cnet a valid test source. I know I wouldn't. I don't even consider them a definitive source for computer information.

 

[ThurstonX]

Exactly. A $300 HE-400 bested its own big brothers in that list that includes the HD-800 and LCD-3, among others.

I didn't understand this though: "Rasta wit da ganja emo"???

 

  I don't think many audiophiles would consider Cnet a valid test source. I know I wouldn't. I don't even consider them a definitive source for computer information.

 
Pretty much that, though I'm not sure I'm an audiophile.  Perhaps compared to those tokers.  I think the CNET dudes were smokin' somethin', and I wanted an emo to convey that.  But like I said, if you think the 400s are better for you, go for it 

 

[intlsubband]

Reason is more value for money, I don't think there's substantial improvement on the HE-500 over the HE-400 for almost double the price. I already have the LCD-2, and I don't think the HE-500 would be much different nor much better.

And I'm intrigued on the HE-400's bass, clarity and resolution. Was chosen among best high-end headphone by CNET, bypassing both HE-500 and HE-6. The list is a price no issue list.

 
Cool. There's no doubt that both are great headphones.
 
Tyll once did a comparison between HE-500 and much pricier TOTL headphones (no HE-400 in the list though), which also showed the HE-500 competes favourably.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparing-world-class-headphones

 

[Zojokkeli]

Exactly. A $300 HE-400 bested its own big brothers in that list that includes the HD-800 and LCD-3, among others.

Maybe their source and amplification wasn't up to snuff. I demoed HE-400's once and didn't think too much of them. But at $300 they're definitely great value.