[SilverEars]

Who designed HE-6 driver? Was it Fang or his partner He? Because I heard the Hifimans start naming convention start with HE after the his partner's name He.

 

[Fegefeuer]

Legend has it that HE6 prototype is still the real deal. I've yet to hear one but from what little info I've gathered, the prototype is supposed to have an even lower sensitivity with even better scaleability.

Weren't all those prototypes even designed with 4 Ohm impedance at one stage and "default" only meant for speaker amps? Iirc I read something like that.

 

[lambdastorm]

Who designed HE-6 driver? Was it Fang or his partner He? Because I heard the Hifimans start naming convention start with HE after the his partner's name He.

Back then Fang was only responsible for marketing and PR, the HE6 was He's work thru and thru. Same story for Jade, hence the name HE Jade.

Weren't all those prototypes even designed with 4 Ohm impedance at one stage and "default" only meant for speaker amps? Iirc I read something like that.

Dunno about the impedance, but it used a different damping mechanism and supposedly resolves even better than 4 screw.

 

[kernel8888]

yes that does sound like a legend... haha

 

[SilverEars]

Back then Fang was only responsible for marketing and PR, the HE6 was He's work thru and thru. Same story for Jade, hence the name HE Jade.


Dunno about the impedance, but it used a different damping mechanism and supposedly resolves even better than 4 screw.

I've heard people say the first Jade was pretty good. Not sure a large sample size would agree.

So, He was responsible for the early circular cup design Hifimans, and the first Jade?

Fang didn't design the diaphragm back then? When does his design come in? HE1000 series and beyond?

Fang has a phd in nanotech from CUNY I believe. So, I assumed he designed the diaphragms even back then. Is this not true? Maybe not the whole driver, just the duaphragm.

 

[sennfan83261]

Fang has a phd in nanotech from CUNY I believe. So, I assumed he designed the diaphragms even back then. Is this not true? Maybe not the whole driver, just the duaphragm.

Maybe he was too busy trying to finish up his dissertation: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/hif...namic-headphone.748334/page-374#post-11847125

 

[lambdastorm]

I've heard people say the first Jade was pretty good. Not sure a large sample size would agree.

So, He was responsible for the early circular cup design Hifimans, and the first Jade?

Fang didn't design the diaphragm back then? When does his design come in? HE1000 series and beyond?

Fang has a phd in nanotech from CUNY I believe. So, I assumed he designed the diaphragms even back then. Is this not true? Maybe not the whole driver, just the duaphragm.

Jade OG was He’s attempt to design an orpheus clone without the orpheus price tag. I had the honor of hearing one that’s still working. It’s splendid.

Fang did have a phd in nanotech, but he’s only involved in designs from HE1000 onwards. He, on the other hand, is and always has been in the hifiman team, but he has little to no involvement in the actual development after the inception of HE560. He started his own speaker company 2 years ago, and the prototype sounds exactly like HE6, just in speaker form.

 

[lambdastorm]

Fang’s idea of a good sound is drastically different from He’s, which explains the sonic shift from HE6 to HE560. From that point on, all hifiman headphones started to sound not so direct. Impact has been reduced to reduce listening fatigue.

 

[bosiemoncrieff]

I enjoy HE-6 but I don't think I'm going to buy another HFM product. Perhaps LCD-4 or MySphere. When I pull out HE-6 after awhile in the drawer, though, I realize its extraordinary abilities, particularly in the sub-bass region - HD800 doesn't have that depth and KSE1500 doesn't have that slam. Was listening to Brahms D minor concerto with them and really impressed - just bought two new recordings of it to push them to their limits.

 

[koudairanger]

I've heard people say the first Jade was pretty good. Not sure a large sample size would agree.

So, He was responsible for the early circular cup design Hifimans, and the first Jade?

Fang didn't design the diaphragm back then? When does his design come in? HE1000 series and beyond?

Fang has a phd in nanotech from CUNY I believe. So, I assumed he designed the diaphragms even back then. Is this not true? Maybe not the whole driver, just the duaphragm.

According to some chinese fans I know, Fang takes more responsibility on listening and giving some suggestions on tuning, the version 1 Jade was not a hifiman stuff but more like a DIY creation.

 

[Dubstep Girl]

he-6 still my favorite and endgame headphone! no reason to upgrade yet, though i am curious to hear the new hifiman models.

really, its all in the bass

 

[Alexnova]

Jade OG was He’s attempt to design an orpheus clone without the orpheus price tag. I had the honor of hearing one that’s still working. It’s splendid.

Fang did have a phd in nanotech, but he’s only involved in designs from HE1000 onwards. He, on the other hand, is and always has been in the hifiman team, but he has little to no involvement in the actual development after the inception of HE560. He started his own speaker company 2 years ago, and the prototype sounds exactly like HE6, just in speaker form.

Do you have a link to his speaker company and this prototype?

 

[HeadphoneAddict]

I still have the original HE-6 with 4-pin XLR speaker adapter, and they are fantastic headphones. However, most of my listening is now done with the HE-1000se, black HD-800s, Westone ES60 custom IEM, and JH Audio Roxanne custom IEM.

The HE-1000se is a really big step up from my HE-560 and HE-1000 V1 which had a more recessed midrange vs the 1000se and other phones, although at RMAF 2019 I heard an HE-1000 V1 with V2 pads and a Danacables $1000 cable and they sounded much closer to the 1000se (very impressed). Still, I think the HE-1000se is my endgame headphone.

If you have an original HE-6 I would recommend not letting that sucker go - it's always fun to pull it out and reminisce on a powerful speaker amp.

 

[Armaegis]

I've had my original HE-6 + AHB2 combo for a while now. I've mucked around with a few other amps, but haven't found anything to dethrone it yet. I'm considering some other dacs though.

 

[SilverEars]

The HE-1000se is a really big step up from my HE-560 and HE-1000 V1 which had a more recessed midrange vs the 1000se and other phones, although at RMAF 2019 I heard an HE-1000 V1 with V2 pads and a Danacables $1000 cable and they sounded much closer to the 1000se (very impressed). Still, I think the HE-1000se is my endgame headphone.

I tried the HE1000SE at a meet, and I found it to sound more or less like the other HE1000 in the series. But, with more extended listening, more of a distinction from the others probably can be drawn.