Some cold, hard, truth. Thank you for the honesty, and not letting placebo rule your impression. First time on this thread where a new pad didn't blow the prior pads away.
Funny thing is you immediately side towards the negative based on one opinion and completely disregard the positive based on one opinion, without trying it yourself. I still have them, I still stand by my statements. I was right about the muddiness aspect though
though I dont hear it in the vocal. Just more so that the subbass is more prominent. It's like the K702 Annies. Granted, a lot more people can attest to that since so many people tried it, but apparently memory foam pads magically fix the ambience of the bass. Im sure placebo takes no part in this for me as I essentially got the HE400 + Alpha Pads for $410, whereas I was willing to spend up to $500ish for a headphone to use at home for now. Not including the fact that they retail new for $400.
I re-ABd velours vs Alpha Pads and I still like the Alpha Pads better in every regard (asides from bass impact), especially comfort and slightly more prominent, but still recessed female vocals, and they dont fatigue me at all anymore. Whether that be due to the increased comfort (no absurd jaw clamp with the hard velours, though personally I always thought vekours were too hard) or decreased treble, I dont know. YMMV.
Also to the placebo aspect; Ive had these for like a month now. Im pretty sure any effects of owning a new toy would have worn off by now, if they were ever there in the beginning.
And I mean everything is relative. People have their own preferences. I read on your thread ad700s were great for gaming. Personally, they were beyond crap. The soundstage made absolutely no sense in itself; things werent fading into the distance correctly, and I do believe fade is a large aspect in determining positioning. The sound was overly bright and annoying, and the headphone itself literally fatigued me within 5 minutes due to how uncomfortable the pads are, with music off. With it on, probably 3 min max. Yet people can attest that theyre godly comfortable. Not my thing. And like your Annies vs LCD2; personally, I can't believe that yet i have not tried it (yet), but apparently if you say it so then it must be so where everyone else's opinions are completely wrong and have to be disregarded if they do not side with you.
It may sound weird/off to marleybob, but for me, coming from the ES3X, it fits my sound preferences much better than with velours.