[NZtechfreak]

   
Spend some time in the Sound Science section of this site. It's easy to make an amp that sounds the same from the single-ended and balanced outputs.

 
I think there is a fair amount of truth to this, although every piece of gear I have had with both sounds best balanced. That may be somewhat to do with the HE6 being my main headphone, given the doubled power output in balanced.

 

[socks mk2]

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[Music Alchemist]

 
I think there is a fair amount of truth to this, although every piece of gear I have had with both sounds best balanced. That may be somewhat to do with the HE6 being my main headphone, given the doubled power output in balanced.

 
I would venture to say that most balanced amps sound better than their single-ended sections, but that isn't because they inherently have to. There's a lot of science involved, but that's a topic for the Sound Science section.
 

I think he means to say that if an amp offers both SE and balanced hp outputs, the SE implementation should sound equal if the design has that it in mind from start to finish. Typically a lot of them sound better balanced as they outperform the SE output due to the design intending for balanced use, but the manufacturers can throw in SE for the heck of it as kind of an "after thought".

Example: the balanced version of my V100 is the V181 and without a doubt my V100's SE output is better implemented than the V181's SE. My V100 makes no compromises when it comes to it's SE hp out. The V181 is really intended for fully balanced use. If you aren't going to use it that way, it won't perform at it's best.

 
Yeah, the Schiit Ragnarok is another example where they put a lot of effort into the balanced side of things.

 

[Hansotek]

 

  I don't get what you mean here by "All things being equal" ... Topologically, they're very different, and the differences are pretty audible, in my experience. Quick checklist of balanced advantages: four amps driving the signal instead of two, 2X the voltage swing, 2x the slew rate, more accurate square wave response, more overall power output, more powerful bass, bigger soundstage. Is it possible for a single ended amp to sound better? Sure. But all things would not be equal in that case. You'd have to compensate in a lot of areas to make up for the advantages balanced amps offer.

 
Spend some time in the Sound Science section of this site. It's easy to make an amp that sounds the same from the single-ended and balanced outputs.

 
The "Sound Science" section is for comedy only.
 

 

[socks mk2]

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[flipper2gv]

   
I have...enemies. I don't even go to meets. Plus I want to be rich but not famous in the future. It's complicated.
 

 
Again, not like someone's gonna kill you. Anyway.

 

[flipper2gv]

   
I don't get what you mean here by "All things being equal" ... Topologically, they're very different, and the differences are pretty audible, in my experience. Quick checklist of balanced advantages: four amps driving the signal instead of two, 2X the voltage swing, 2x the slew rate, more accurate square wave response, more overall power output, more powerful bass, bigger soundstage. Is it possible for a single ended amp to sound better? Sure. But all things would not be equal in that case. You'd have to compensate in a lot of areas to make up for the advantages balanced amps offer.

 
My Geek Pulse is dual mono balanced all the way up to the output, which is single ended. That's what he meant I guess.
 
 

   
Yep, and guess who gets to try it this weekend? 

 RMAF FTW!
 

I'm happy to know that someone who I trust his opinion will be able to hear it and report. 

Usually it's either fanboys or entitled kids from /r/headphones.

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Again, not like someone's gonna kill you. Anyway.

 

 

[Hansotek]

 

   
Yep, and guess who gets to try it this weekend? 

 RMAF FTW!
 

I'm happy to know that someone who I trust his opinion will be able to hear it and report. 

Usually it's either fanboys or entitled kids from /r/headphones.

 
Thanks. I'll try not to let ya down!

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Thanks. I'll try not to let ya down!

 
Can you give a list of which other headphones will definitely be there that you will be able to compare? (I'm too lazy to find the info myself.)

 

[Rockin_Zombie]

   
Yep, and guess who gets to try it this weekend?

 RMAF FTW!

Ether C with metal, PLEASE! 

 

[Mardrommar]

Well, I have no problems to show my real face on avatar ))

You're beautiful.

 

[Hansotek]

 

Yep, and guess who gets to try it this weekend? :atsmile:  RMAF FTW!

Ether C with metal, PLEASE! 

Will do. I quite liked the open version when I tested it with metal a couple of months ago.

 

[Hansotek]

 
Thanks. I'll try not to let ya down!

Can you give a list of which other headphones will definitely be there that you will be able to compare? (I'm too lazy to find the info myself.)

I haven't seen a consolidated list.

 

[drez]

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