Grado Fan Club!
Aug 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM Post #4,246 of 65,615
I just placed an order for Alessandro MS-1i's from their wedsite. Seemed to be the best bang for the buck, considering Grado SR80i's cost 150€ in Finland. Could get the Alessandros for almost half that, shipping included. Now I just have to wait for them to arrive, hope it doesnt take ages...
 
And on a side note, I'm not a audiophile, not yet atleast. I just heard so much great things about those cans, that I just had to test them out. Only headphones i've owned in the past have been a pair of Skullcandys that broke on the same day I bought them, got my money back and bought Sennheiser HD448, which have been good. So those Alessandros could be considered my first step in to more serious business.
 
Aug 27, 2012 at 6:59 PM Post #4,247 of 65,615
My experience with Headphone Lounge:
 
About 3 months ago, I had just purchased my first set of Ultimate Ears TF10's. Before this, I only had experience with a plethora of cheapo IEMs such as the stock Apple Earbuds, Brainwavz M2, Skullcandies and a couple not so cheapo IEMs such as the Shure E3c. All of these IEMs broke on me within 3-6 months of usage due to one common factor, cable breakage. Now, I don't yank or pull my IEMs but I exercise, bike, run, jump, and lift weights with these things. In other words, I live life with them. I love music and listen to it every chance I get whether it's in the restroom, in the car, working on homework, and so forth but I was spending at least $100 a year buying replacement IEMs. After reading a couple threads on Head-Fi, I discovered that re-cabling could be a viable option for not only better sound quality but increased durability as well.
 
This is when I began contact with Chris_Himself at Headphone Lounge. I instant messaged him on a weekday around 2 A.M and surprisingly enough, he was awake and extremely responsive to all of my questions (trust me, I had a lot). In hindsight, I asked many stupid and basic questions that would drive even the most patient person crazy but Chris answered everything in a friendly manner. I quickly forgot that I was talking to a business representative of Headphone Lounge and felt like I was talking to an old friend. After several hours of talking, I sent payment for a Silver Ray IEM cable. I was excited as Chris could not keep emphasizing how much better my TF10's would sound with his cable. In all honesty, I am a skeptic when it comes to claims of huge boosts in sound quality but I didn't really care as I purchased the cable for durability rather than performance.
 
3 months/$2000+ later, I have owned/listened to the following gear:
 
Earsonics SM3 V2
Westone UM3X
Fiio E17
Headstage Arrow 12HE 4G
Ultrasone Pro 900
Nuforce HDP
Audeze LCD2 R2 (friends)
AKG 701 (friends)
Grado SR225i
Magnum V4
 
I now only own two sets of gear, the TF10's and the Magnum V4 build.
 
You may be wondering, why would you sell such highly renowned sets of equipment? In all honesty, I could not tell the difference in SQ between my Headstage Arrow 4G and my Fiio E17, not one difference. I was beginning to think I was crazy but I then purchased the Nuforce HDP. Again, there was really no clear difference that would indicate it was $300 than the previous two amps. My Earsonics and UM3X's sounded great technically but they didn't give me the same emotion that my TF10's gave. I felt the same way about my friend's LCD2s. The point of this paragraph is to highlight the reasons why I am a skeptic to high-end gear sounding so much better than mid-tier equipment. People have claimed a 20-30% increase as you move to the next tier. In my experience, it is not even half of that. Call me crazy but I judge with my ears, not with what I read or how much money I spent.
 
Fast forward to the present and I now own a Grado build decked out in Headphone Lounge Gear. Here is what the build looks like:
 
[size=x-small]Symphone Magnum V4 Drivers[/size]
[size=x-small]Headphone Lounge Onyx Manta Headband[/size]
[size=x-small]Headphone Lounge Silver Ray Headphone Cable w/ Neutrik Right-Angled 1/8"+Viablue Y-Splitter[/size]
[size=x-small]Vibro Labs Classic Mahogany Cups[/size]
[size=x-small]Detatchable Cable Mod- SMC Connectors to 1/8"[/size]
 
[size=x-small]I'll cut right to the chase. These things sound amazing, even plugged in straight to my phone or laptop. Compared to the stock SR225i drivers/cable, the level of clarity and energy is noticeably heightened. Imagine what they would sound like amped through a proper DAC? Treble emphasis/clarity has increased by a good amount, bass has tightened up, and even though the soundstage on Grados is notoriously bad, the soundstage is more than enough enough to satisfy me, even after listening to the TF10's, SM3's, and LCD2's. In terms of build quality, it can only be described as nothing short of a masterpiece. The wooden cups themselves are a work of art. From the design, cutting, and production, Luke from Headphone Lounge is a one man operation that takes pride in his work and it is evident in the final product which looks AMAZING. I can't stop staring at how good they look. The detachable cable mod/cables themselves were made by Ted at Headphone Lounge. Ted is an awesome, very friendly guy that is down to earth and as honest as they come. Ted was responsible for making the cables for both my TF10s and the Grado build as well as performing the detachable mod. We decided on SMC connectors (same connectors as the Hifiman cans) and the level of detail and craftsmanship is top-notch. Ted used 24 gauge wire inside the drivers with heat shrink for maximum durability and the solder job looks freaking great. I have complete confidence everything will hold up Everything feels sturdy and durable. Moving onto the headband, the stock SR225 headband was thin and did not offer much support or comfortability. Jin's Onyx Manta headband is made of quality materials and feels much more comfortable and I can barely feel anything on my head during listening sessions.[/size]
 
 
[size=x-small]Overall, the Magnum build is wonderful and greatly exceeded my originally skeptical expectations of how good they could really sound. Not only that but the Grados no longer feel like a huge piece of plastic held together by glue but rather a piece of high craftsmanship. These are now 1 of 2 of my favorite pieces of equipment, the other being my Ultimate Ears Triple Fi 10's. Speaking of the TF10's, what happened with the cable I purchased from Chris that started off this entire adventure? Well, after plugging them in for the first time and not expecting to hear anything different (a feeling of disappointment I became accustomed to after purchasing and listening to high-end gear without any noticeable difference), there was actually a HUGE difference. My god, all my skepticism subsided once I listened to them. The treble emphasis on the already treble-emphasized TF10s became even more pronounced except everything became more clear. Vocals were more crisp and life-like. The bass has definitely tightened up and does not bloat the entire frequency spectrum as much as before. The overall quality has improved and is DEFINITELY noticeable. For all the skeptics out there like me, trust me, a quality cable changes and may even improve the sound signature.To summarize, I believe my Grados sound better than my SM3s, my UM3Xs, and can even compete with the LCD2s head-on. I don't feel like I am missing anything switching from the LCD2s. My friend who owns them was instantly wowed at the overall sound and asked me how much they cost to build? I told him the amount, which was a little bit over half of what it cost for his LCD2s and was in shock, and for good reason.[/size]
 
[size=x-small]In conclusion, everyone at Headphone Lounge is wonderful. After working and keeping in contact with them for several months now, I feel like they are my friends that I can come to to talk about anything whether it be about headphones, music, food, life, and so forth. They are all friendly and take pride in what they do. They all love music just as much as the next guy and genuinely want to provide the best experience you can have, all at an affordable price. Although I am still skeptical of high-end gear being so much better than much more affordable gear like my TF10s and Grados, I can tell you without a doubt that a re-cable from Headphone Lounge WILL make it sound better. I can say this with confidence even without the prescribed 100 hours of burn-in that they recommend. In addition to a re-cable, if you ever need any other headphone related services, Chris and Ted are the guys to go to. Their prices are more than affordable without any sacrifice in quality.[/size]
 

 

 

 
Aug 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM Post #4,249 of 65,615
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I'm loving the PS-1 a lot right now.
 
 

 
 
I think I'm going to dive into the world of Magnum drivers next. It's a little daunting, though. Ideally I'd like to find a complete build that uses the v3 or v4.

 
Have you contacted Rhydon? Maybe he can do something...
 
Aug 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM Post #4,252 of 65,615
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That looks, AWESOME.

 
+1
 
Grados look much better with that thicker headband than they do the flat one....those are some of the nicest Grados I've ever seen! Makes me want to pick em up and slap those babies on my noggin!! 
 
Aug 29, 2012 at 12:32 AM Post #4,253 of 65,615
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That looks, AWESOME.

Wow. Those look so much better in person. From Headphonelounge.com right? Dang. Seeing those makes me want to pick some wood cups so much more
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. Gotta get some $$!
 
Aug 29, 2012 at 1:35 AM Post #4,254 of 65,615
Does anybody know if its worth upgrading from the Grado sr80i to the Alessandro MS-1?  
 
I already like the sound of sr80i but seems like a lot of people are liking the MS-1.
 
And does anybody know if theres a way to fix the sound leakage of the grados? and does the MS-1 have less sound leakage than the sr80i?
 
Aug 29, 2012 at 1:55 AM Post #4,255 of 65,615
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Does anybody know if its worth upgrading from the Grado sr80i to the Alessandro MS-1?  
 
I already like the sound of sr80i but seems like a lot of people are liking the MS-1.
 
And does anybody know if theres a way to fix the sound leakage of the grados? and does the MS-1 have less sound leakage than the sr80i?

I believe they both leak sound as much, because of the open back design, but someone please correct me if i'm wrong. 
 
Aug 29, 2012 at 10:04 AM Post #4,256 of 65,615
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Does anybody know if its worth upgrading from the Grado sr80i to the Alessandro MS-1?  
 
I already like the sound of sr80i but seems like a lot of people are liking the MS-1.
 
And does anybody know if theres a way to fix the sound leakage of the grados? and does the MS-1 have less sound leakage than the sr80i?


well i do hear the MS1's sound similar, but more Neutral in a way. as the Sr80i sounds more Dynamic.
They both are equally priced, only different sounding/ looks
 
Unless you really want to, i wouldnt do it. In my opinion.
either you want your headphones to sound like speakers-Neutral
or you want your headphones sounding like Headphones-Dynamic.
 
also, they both are designed very similar thanks to Grado.
so they both would leak a lot of sound, and let ambient sound in..
 
Theres no way to counteract it, you cant just block the Drivers, turn it into a Closed Can.
makes the can sound like your cupping your ears to hear high pitch soundwaves (Hearing the Ocean)
 
Aug 29, 2012 at 4:06 PM Post #4,258 of 65,615
Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 PM Post #4,259 of 65,615
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Does anybody know if its worth upgrading from the Grado sr80i to the Alessandro MS-1?  
 
I already like the sound of sr80i but seems like a lot of people are liking the MS-1.
 
And does anybody know if theres a way to fix the sound leakage of the grados? and does the MS-1 have less sound leakage than the sr80i?

 
Owned the MS1-i, have heard the SR80i.
 
They are both built the same - except that the SR80i has a button on the grill.  Otherwise they are virtually identical looking.
 
As far as sound goes - the MSi1 retains the essential Grado sound - very up-front presentation (you're on stage with the band), quick, mid & treble slanted, with some mid-bass but no real sub-bass extension.  The difference is that the mids on the MS1i to me are a little richer, and the highs are not quite so edgy/pronounced.  The differences are not huge though.
 
To move to the MS1i from the SR80i would be a side-grade IMO.  Better options would be:
 * Buy an SR225i
 * Keep your existing SR80i and:
   - do basic mods (maybe vent drivers slightly, remove and replace rear grill, maybe - for comfort - look at a headband upgrade)
   - try different pads - especially TTVJ flats, and bowls as options
   - look at more complex mods - especially moving to wooden cups
 
If you do go the mod route - you'll end up spending a bit, but you can do it in stages, and the experimenting is a lot of fun.  I started off with a set of MS1i, and ended up with this:
 

 
 
 
Original MS1i frame, new headband, recable, wooden cups (fwj), bowls, and transplanted SR325i drivers.  Doing it a little at a time doesn't breeak the bank - and you end up with something a lot better than you started with.  Just deciding now whether to go magnum drivers ............. hmmm   :)
 
Aug 29, 2012 at 7:30 PM Post #4,260 of 65,615
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Then maybe someone like yourself can help? 
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Yep! :)
 
I'm not on head-fi to sell stuff though, I've been helping people build their own mods. I make more friends that way and heck, I got more free time at the end of the day!
 
PM me if you ever wanna chat about stuff bud.
 

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