Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Nov 11, 2019 at 6:36 PM Post #15,316 of 62,813
On an unrelated note, since I’m now done with the MW07+, I’ve been listening to the Soundcore Liberty 2 Pros for the last hour or so, and I have to say that, even with the “hiss,” these are the best TWEs (and some of the best earphones, period) I have ever heard. Incredible (melodic) bass, and incredible clarity. Of course, I have to send these back too because they randomly disconnect during phone calls (and voice memos), and I think there might be a related issue with the microphone quality — but I will definitely get a new (hopefully working) pair. They sound just that good.


If you don't mind saying, why are you done with the MW07+? Sound? features?
And how would you compare the MW07+ sound to the L2P?
 
Nov 11, 2019 at 6:52 PM Post #15,318 of 62,813
Nov 11, 2019 at 6:54 PM Post #15,319 of 62,813
If you don't mind saying, why are you done with the MW07+? Sound? features?
And how would you compare the MW07+ sound to the L2P?

I sent the MW07+ back because I have only Apple devices and the MW07+ don’t support AAC. I can’t really speak to the sound of the MW07+ because I was only able to connect them via SBC and I don’t think that codec allowed the earphones to show their full sonic capabilities. I think M&D misstepped by not including AAC.

M&D mentioned that they expected to enable AAC through a firmware update, but they didn’t know the timing, or whether the firmware would be able to be updated without sending the earphones back to the manufacturer. If/when they do update the MW07+ to include AAC, I may repurchase them. Having said that, there are several other TWEs with better ANC that have recently hit the market (like the APPs and the Echo Buds), so the MW07+ are a harder sell now. Every earphone has its moment, I guess — and it’s a tough market.

The L2Ps do connect via AAC and are really nice sounding — arguably the best sounding TWEs on the market now. (Obviously, a very subjective judgment, and your mileage may vary.)

I’m aware the codecs are only part of the story — but it irked me to spend $299 on a pair of earphones that didn’t include the only high quality codec that Apple supports.
 
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Nov 11, 2019 at 7:20 PM Post #15,321 of 62,813
I picked up the L2P last night and tried them straight away :) they came in around £93
My first reaciton was wow. Then I installed the app, and it got much better. They're not mentally loud, but the bass is great, and it can be increased.
I flicked backwards and forwards between the Anbes 359 and L2P, and I came to realise that I really like the Anbes ! they're small/light and just work.
I am keeping the L2p as they're accoustically better, but I can't seem to get the right ear to fit properly, and it aches after a while, but I'll experiment with the other buds/wing tips.
Also, when you take the L2P out and put them in the case, they carry on playing...until you close it. Not sue why, but that annoys me. Also , getting them into the case is a bit like tetris :)
They're the negatives, the positives are that they sound very nice. I'm now wanting to listen to a £300 pair to see what the upgrade actually gets you. Oh the battery life is brilliant, I'll test that properly on the 12 hour flight home.

I've bought 2 pairs of TWS following advice (which is excellent) on here, and both have been great purchases, so thanks for all your input !
Honestly, the L2P, sound-wise, are right up there with the best. The MW07 is arguably better, however, with the different EQ options and firmware updates, the L2P or even the L2 are in that upper echelon when you're talking pure SQ.

Now, if you're looking for ANC, the only good options are Sony and Apple. Bose will have something here in 2020, but I mean come on Bose, TWS are just flat out taking off like hotcakes! Also, the margins on them are likely far better than your standard full-sized headphone, so is 100% baffling why Bose is taking sooo long on those bad boys.
 
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Nov 11, 2019 at 8:12 PM Post #15,324 of 62,813
APP returned. Hiss free LP2 pro arriving tomorrow. Still debating the merits of mw07 go. Would really like someone to nail ANC, sq plus sweat protection.
 
Nov 11, 2019 at 8:13 PM Post #15,325 of 62,813
I'm like a schoolchild.

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Nov 11, 2019 at 9:04 PM Post #15,327 of 62,813
Based on further testing I found they only update the battery in increments of 10 instead of 2 like the other TWS earphones I tried. Not sure if that's a bug or not. So far I've gotten about 5 hours and have 3x percent left

My MW07 Go was only charging up to 92% (sometimes briefly showing 93% then going immediately back down to 92%) and I did not notice the increments of 10 but its possible that the Plus and Go versions behave differently. I did not try to MW07+ so I can't comment on that. I was using a Galaxy S9 (Android 9) as my main source in case that is relevant. The battery issue plus some pairing issues I had were why I returned them and why I believe I had a defective unit. In addition to the battery issue, they would not always pair when taken out of the case and it took me way too many tries to get it to pair with a second phone after disabling bluetooth on the first phone (I lost count but I probably spent half an hour trying to get it to pair). I will probably give them a second shot eventually since I did like them once they were working.
 
Nov 11, 2019 at 9:13 PM Post #15,328 of 62,813
My MW07 Go was only charging up to 92% (sometimes briefly showing 93% then going immediately back down to 92%) and I did not notice the increments of 10 but its possible that the Plus and Go versions behave differently. I did not try to MW07+ so I can't comment on that. I was using a Galaxy S9 (Android 9) as my main source in case that is relevant. The battery issue plus some pairing issues I had were why I returned them and why I believe I had a defective unit. In addition to the battery issue, they would not always pair when taken out of the case and it took me way too many tries to get it to pair with a second phone after disabling bluetooth on the first phone (I lost count but I probably spent half an hour trying to get it to pair). I will probably give them a second shot eventually since I did like them once they were working.
I'm using a galaxy s9 as well. There's something funky going on with these but so far I haven't had any other issues and the battery life is basically as advertised
 
Nov 11, 2019 at 9:59 PM Post #15,330 of 62,813
Got my pair of L2P just now. New version. Minor hissing noticeable but not bad at all.They are very bassy all around, flat setting sounds best so far. The big DD is very capable.

Quick judgement - worth the discounted price. Fun tuning that might be somewhat fatiguing, I'll update with more impressions soon
 

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