[actorlife]

Any tips where to buy Sabbat E12 in Canada? I'm confused why Gearbest has two listings, one on sale and another more expensive listing that gives the option to chose wireless-charging bin. Looks like someone did try asking about the on-sale one being wireless charging but the seller just said "yes connectivity: Wireless" which seems ambiguous. Amazon has a few grey-market listings (that is, they put some random brand's name in front of Sabbat), but at this point they don't seem to be Amazon-fulfilled so you're not getting an advantage for shipping (it seems to me the budget-fi TWS are really behind in Amazon Canada). I bought the Anbes 359 from Aliexpress but it still hasn't been shipped yet after 3 days. =/

Please do not get the Sabbat period. You will be highly disappointed with any pair. If you look a couple pages back I recommended a couple of neutral earphones.

Edit.
These are neutral(I own both. Both are real good) :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MYZK9NT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
or
https://www.amazon.com/【Upgraded-Cancelling-HonShoop-Lightweight-Headphones/dp/B07L9PJJX1/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=wireless+graphene&qid=1560868879&s=gateway&sr=8-8

Never heard these but they have graphene drivers which is always a good bet:
https://www.amazon.com/PeohZarr-Wir...graphene+wireless+ear,electronics,152&sr=1-17
or
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Ear...=graphene+wireless+ear,electronics,152&sr=1-9
and these 19 bucks. whoa.(I just bought these will report back when I get them)
https://www.amazon.com/Xawy-Bluetoo...graphene+wireless+ear,electronics,152&sr=1-18

 

[hifi80sman]

I do agree with this.

Convenience is very addicting.

Google bs encyclopedias, Uber vs taxis, wireless phone charging, power lock and windows in cars, air conditioning, dishwasher, power lawn mower, streaming movies, etc.

Ahh, those were the days.


We've come a long way.

 

[AtariPrime]

Please do not get the Sabbat period. You will be highly disappointed with any pair. If you look a couple pages back I recommended a couple of neutral earphones.

I will agree that he should not get the Sabbat, but not for the reasons stated. They are cheap Chi-fi. Music was never meant to be listened to with a 'neutral' sound signature. It is only recorded that way so that it can be pumped through a wide range of audio devices and still have a moderately similar sound that doesn't distort. If you want proof that music was never intended to be listened to that way, go to a concert, any concert and you will find that almost always the artist is pumping up the bass throughout the performance. The mids get pumped up quite often too. This is how the artist intended their music to be heard. As a result, a neutral signature is a lie. If that's what you prefer, ok, but it has nothing to do with how the music was intended to be heard.

 

[AtariPrime]

Ahh, those were the days.


We've come a long way.

Well when you put it this way...the Sennheisers look tiny.

 

[OnTheRoad]

Not sure how well these would work for podcasts as I don't listen to those. But I've been using Anbes 359 recently and have been very happy with them. Last I saw they were about $40 USD less 30% coupon on Amazon.com, so well within your budget.

Have tried SoundPeats TrueFree and they're close to the Anbes but I feel the Anbes are better.

Alternatively, if you already have a pair of IEM's with a removable cable then you should really take a look at the TRN BT20.

Really appreciate these suggestions. : )

I use KZ Ate ED3 for music currently and JVC Marshmallow for anything related to spoken word media. I find I get tired listening to audiobooks on the KZ Ates after 30 - 40 minutes. (The voice sounds to deep with these.) They aren't a problem for music in that regard.

For the price, can't really beat the Anbes 359 for music. However, they are bassy, so may not be the best for narrators with deep voices. I also have these, which I'd probably recommend for your uses, especially since it sounds like music is secondary. I find the Comexion comfortable with a pleasant sound profile. Touch controls are also pretty responsive as well.

Thanks so much for the suggestions and help. I would prefer something with not too much bass for the reason you specified. And I'll need to find something on AliExpress or from a store that ships to Europe. Can't get the Comexion on Amazon.com.

I pretty much exclusively use my TWS' for audiobooks. I really like the QCY T1 Pro, crisp treble and mid, good volume. QCY T1 are almost as good, but they don't quite sparkle as much and the volume isnt' nearly as loud, but fine for most situations. I also use the anbes 359, and the Tiso i4 bot have less treble, more mid and bass. the anbes are the loudest of the bunch. The T1 pros are my fav and they are touch control, but no volume control.

Many thanks for reply and suggestions! May I ask which TWS' you use specifically for audiobooks? It looks like there a few models available. Which do you like?

 

[Slater]

Ahh, those were the days.


We've come a long way.

I remember that commercial haha

 

[Caipirina]

This is what I get for having all my orders collected at my 'maildrop' and then finally arrive and being overwhelmed by 10+ new TWE

So far I only did quick checks if they are all working (only the Sabbat E12 have a faulty right bud, seller wants a video to prove this and then will offer 'a solution')

But here my very quick take-aways of some of them, all out of the box with tips as they came.

-Syllable S101 ... those I actually like the most so far and did 2 very successful +10K runs with them ... sound, fit, looks. Only once the left bud would totally lose connection and then I had to randomly press some buttons and they came back

- QCY T1 ... I love those as I can totally and securely jam them all the way up my ear canal And they sound nice

- Havit G1 ... they remind me a LOT of my Jabras which died too soon ... the rubbery texture, that knobbly form factor ... I need to try them next on a run ... they even have a similar Bassy-McBassFace 'fun' sound as the Jabras ... need to do tip rolling to get perfect seal, for strange reasons I got the right side done with out of the box tip (my right ear canal is usually the problem child) but left has not worked out yet ...
Kuddos to the unique case design. But what I don't like is that the charging points on the buds are quite visible (and what about rain?)



-Mifo 05 BA version ... not impressed ... that case is super heavy .. sound is .. eh ... will give it some more time. They arrived with the tips bent all out of shape



-redmi airdots ... were a pain to pair, found a YT video to help reset and then they would finally pair with each other

-Anbes 359 ... i still feel pretty neutral about them ... also, will need more time

-whizzer TP1 ... those feel HUGE .. but sound nice ... not super impressed yet, but giving it some time




-XG17 for 8.52$ ... if you really can't afford more than 10$, those will do .. or if you lose TWE all the time ... they actually work, they have a bit of a background noise (sometimes, not always)... they do not sound like total rubbish ... maybe good present for kids ... pairing was easy



- some more at or sub 20$ buds: tiso i4, Capsule Anomoibuds, Haylou GT1 .. they all do a pretty decent job for this price range ... The Haylou (beautiful tiny case, just trying them again as I type, liking the sound) had similar pairing issues as the redmi airdots, eventually i figured it out



- 1more stylish ... quite liking them, they way they fit, but i think i still have to play with the different fittings ... voice is CHinese and I have not figured out yet how to change ... or I just keep it

- My Blitzwolf FYE5 have been in custody @customs since 5/27 .. let's see if they ever get released, by now I fear they dropped off some shelf in the trash

Funny thing is that somehow I am having way too much fun with a certain white stemmed replica bud for 25$, which I got for 'science' purposes .. to compare, to see what the fuzz is about ... and well, it appears to be a huge gamble if one really ends up getting the model that has been advertized, or if the promised features are working ... reading the comments makes it seem like a casino rolled into a mine field enshrouded in an enigma, in other words, just stay away

But the fact that something at that pricepoint comes that close and in the sound department possible even exceeds the original fruit (to be fair, I only got to sample the originals in-store with ample background noise, but was thoroughly not impressed by what I would consider a 'cheap earbud sound') is mind boggling ...

Did I get too many TWE? Yes, but hey, learning curve .. and I only get to do this once a year.

Did I list ALL that I have ordered in the review? Possibly? There might still be some on the way? No, not really, as far as I know only the freebie i7s I 'won' for 0.01cents are on their way, with a tracking number that is not recognized ... shady business that... oh, and that cheapo T8 TWS that looks like the Lezii x12 still has to pop up.

Now I really need to stop with this madness and wait for the Bose 700 ANC TWS to drop .. and whatever 'cheap' stuff then pops up with that new qualcom chip ...

Until then I will each and every TWS set some time to play with ... I might sell some off to friends, so far I don't feel any of them is total trash ... I feel a bit miffed about the mixed back of emotions with the more expensive pairs I got ... the Mifo fail to impress, the Sabbat do not work, the Whizzer are HUGE !!! ...

If anyone wants to follow a similar rabbithole, stay with the 20$ buds Or get a different hobby ..

 

[FYLegend]

Eh, what about Earfun Free then?

 

[d3myz]

Really appreciate these suggestions. : )

I use KZ Ate ED3 for music currently and JVC Marshmallow for anything related to spoken word media. I find I get tired listening to audiobooks on the KZ Ates after 30 - 40 minutes. (The voice sounds to deep with these.) They aren't a problem for music in that regard.



Thanks so much for the suggestions and help. I would prefer something with not too much bass for the reason you specified. And I'll need to find something on AliExpress or from a store that ships to Europe. Can't get the Comexion on Amazon.com.



Many thanks for reply and suggestions! May I ask which TWS' you use specifically for audiobooks? It looks like there a few models available. Which do you like?

My fav. are the QCY T1-Pro, then the T1 followed by the Anbes 359.

 

[Nocturnal310]

the convenience of true wireless is truly a revelation for me.

the biggest advantage being how I talk on the phone now. I can go around my day doing things indoor and outdoor while talking to people on phone endlessly and tap for talk-through instead of pulling them out each time as thats super annoying with in-earphones.
another great benefit is that i can listen to music from both phone and laptop and audio switches automatically.

only small problem i have noticed is since you cant hang them around neck like semi-wireless earphones, i have to ensure i put them in case each time i am done using them and few times they almost slipped out of my hands as some ear wax or sweat can make them slippery.

i think in terms of sound quality even sennheiser momentums didnt feel close to hifi wired in-ear monitors but everyday convenience means i spend more time with true wireless earphones.

 

[vstolpner]

@Caipirina
How do the 1more stylish compare to Anbes 359?

Also, give the mifo's a chance, let them burn in. BA's have a different sound signature but they're great if you're happy without too much base

 

[vstolpner]

My fav. are the QCY T1-Pro, then the T1 followed by the Anbes 359.

How are the T1 pro's better than 359? Curious if it's with the upgrade

 

[Nocturnal310]

It absolutely is that much better. Whether it’s worth 2x the cost is up to you but there is no comparison sq wise. Elites are average at best.

i happened to demo the sennheiser momentums recently.

i think they lack hi fidelity sound as level of detail was same as jabra elites.

however, they must have a really big driver as sound produced was much more alive and punchy...thats the biggest difference i noticed.

the songs where i found some lack of accuracy in sound being produced was common in both jabra elites and momentums as I feel bluetooth protocol was still a limiting factor in full details being accurately produced.

thats why i feel momentums are definitely not worth $300 especially with battery drain issues, lack of multiple audio sources being connected at same time etc. you are mainly paying for sennheiser branding as sennheiser has been spending a lot over the past 5-6 years of marketing to mainstream consumer market.

 

[clerkpalmer]

Ok guys, does anyone think the foster will outperform the trn 20 in a meaningful way? I’ve asked this before but I’m ready to take the plunge. What iem do I want to pair with it? Give me fun sounding and a bit warm. Also needs to be durable enough to use in the gym. Send me your recommendations. Thanks!

 

[clerkpalmer]

i happened to demo the sennheiser momentums recently.

i think they lack hi fidelity sound as level of detail was same as jabra elites.

however, they must have a really big driver as sound produced was much more alive and punchy...thats the biggest difference i noticed.

the songs where i found some lack of accuracy in sound being produced was common in both jabra elites and momentums as I feel bluetooth protocol was still a limiting factor in full details being accurately produced.

thats why i feel momentums are definitely not worth $300 especially with battery drain issues, lack of multiple audio sources being connected at same time etc. you are mainly paying for sennheiser branding as sennheiser has been spending a lot over the past 5-6 years of marketing to mainstream consumer market.

I have all but given up using my mtw. The battery drain just sucks period. I’ve been meaning to call them and demand a refund or credit or something. Just don’t have the energy. The pb pro are my new favorites. Slightly worse sq but they are always available to pair and work. Haven’t charged them in 2 weeks and still going.