Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Apr 17, 2019 at 9:24 AM Post #6,241 of 62,589
I have the weirdest bug ever on the Sabbat X12, and thought I would ask if anyone else has this issue.
Sometimes when the track changes, and a new song comes up, for half a second, only the left earbud has sound, and then the right one comes on too.
I usually do a double take, and press back to restart the track and it doesn't repeat the issue.
My other TWE set does not do this. There is usually no interference during that time.
In one session, it can happen up to 3 times in an hour or so. It's really minor, but so strange, and I am wondering if it can be an issue that will grow in time.
 
Apr 17, 2019 at 9:33 AM Post #6,242 of 62,589
Can't say I've had that with my X12. I do have the very occasional "reset" with the right (and maybe the left) earbud saying "right ear connected" (or something like that). That's on top of the very occasion "interference" where it just tunes in/out without a message.
 
Apr 17, 2019 at 9:37 AM Post #6,243 of 62,589
Received the Nuarl NT01AX in black gold (revision MT3) today. Took only 5 days from the time of order to free delivery on the door by Fedex in Norway. (Btw, @BigZ12, no tax/customs fee for me!) Very good experience with the Singapore shop Stereo! Some early impressions follow, mostly comparing it to the Moondrop Kanas Pro Edition (KPE) since it's the only other IEM I have. Paired with my Xperia XZ1 with BT5+aptX, playing primarily through Poweramp (jazz, pop, EDM).
  • Nice packaging with 6 pairs of tips, two different ear loops and a nicer, bigger and thicker bag than came with the Kanas Pro (which is pretty crap). Also, an English manual.
  • Easy to charge and pair. Decent charging box, though I'm not completely convinced the lid hinge will take too many hard beatings.
  • I love that it's IP rated and has a relatively long battery life. Two musts for truly wireless IEMs for me.
  • Looks handsome and seems solid. The colour goes well with my hair. Does attract fingerprints on the shiny parts, but I don't care.
  • Paired with my Xperia XZ1 with BT5+aptX it has zero perceptible lag.
  • The sound surprised me with its fullness, forwardness and loudness (the max volume goes beyond my limit). It's quite a bit more bass heavy than the Kanas Pro. The KPE has a cleaner and less forward low end that I personally prefer in most cases. But as RobinFood said, the deep bass in Eminem's Killshot sounds fantastic on the NT01AX! I look forward to exploring this aspect more. The mids are better resolved and less congested on the KPE, but overall sound great. Eminem's voice is given full justice in that same track. There's practically no sibilance for me (only at painfully high volumes), and clean, good highs. Soundstage may be slightly wider on the KPE. It shows very nice detail on the jazz album Eastern Sounds by Yusef Lateef. Overall, I'm pleased with the sound and found it can particularly get electronic/pop music pumping, but I'm quite confident it can sound good with most genres, at least by equalising. Should be great for my kind of gym music (mostly EDM, techno, trance)! And it appears to be growing on me as I listen to various tracks now. Playing some darkwave mixes on YouTube showcases a very pleasant and full-sounding interplay between the thumping drums and high and low synths.
  • It does have a constant, quiet white noise that keeps going for a few seconds after the sound has stopped, as mentioned by others. I don't notice it when there's sound playing, but I wish it weren't there.
  • Whereas the KPE fit me like a glove from the word go with the stock medium tips, I'm still working on getting an optimal fit with the NT01AX. As clerkpalmer said, it does seat rather deep. With my cranial/ear construction, at least, that blocks/changes the sound whenever I open my jaw. It helps me to use the small SpinFit tips, and I'll do some more tip rolling. They're comfortable. I do favour the fit and comfort of the KPE so far, but I'll have to see over time and in different situations with the NT01AX. I plan on using it mostly at the gym and on hikes, and I'll probably have to move my jaw to breathe in those situations, not to mention during phone calls and when eating.
  • The microphone seems to be good.
  • They're very light! And it's such a luxury and freedom not to have a cable hanging from/between the ear pieces.
That concludes my early impressions, which are very good for an IEM with this functionality and at this price. If I can improve the fit for my ears a bit, I see myself using it a lot. I'll take it for a hike tomorrow.

Thanks for the recommendation, RobinFood and palestofwhite!

Just wait, they will grow on you more and more as time goes by. My ER4XR is technically much better and balanced, but I find myself enjoying music much more, even if I am missing some detail and vocals are less present. I really appreciate how they make instruments sound alive I love listening to instrument-heavy songs that are well recorded, like movie and Disney soundtracks. I find the heavy bass not to affect clarity or imaging too much, and that in itself completely blows my mind.

The hiss is actually constant if your phone sends signals. I use it mostly with my Shanling M0 and it never stops. With my phone, it stops and starts up again when I open an app. It is much better when it is constant than when it cuts off, I find. It's less in focus and kind of fades away. It is great white noise therapy for my tinnitus to be honest, I haven't heard my tinnitus in a few days.

I don't get the fit issues some of you are having though. I guess I must be lucky, but those medium spin fits with the ear hooks make them one of the most comfortable IEMs I've ever worn. It really doesn't feel like they are in right, but they block as much ambient noise as any other tips I have tried. It feels like I am wearing flat-head earbuds to be honest.
 
Apr 17, 2019 at 9:50 AM Post #6,244 of 62,589
Obviously no comparison to the sound quality of my SE846/BTR3 combo but for a fully wireless freebee I am quite impressed. Certainly good enough for my Cycle commute to work & back if the BT signal stays strong to my S10+ (only just arrived so not tried yet).

Bass is obviously not great but not terrible either like some reviewers are indicating. They either have a poor fit or come from Beats like bass head earphones.

I would never use them other than when exercising (Gym/bike etc.) but super convenient with an S10 series phone & with Samsung Adaptive Bluetooth.



UPDATE

Just had my 1hr lunchtime speed-walk and no drop of signal & buds stayed in place perfectly & really comfy. Honestly, for their price I think they are great and would likely satisfy many non bass-head standard listeners (not head-fi purists).

Hmm....a Fiio 3.5mm 40cm wire looks to be perfect for that combo :)

Question: It's obvious that SE846 will be vastly superior, why not use it for your commute as well? Are you just testing those earbuds? I don't see any incovenience using a BT adapter running under the shirt for those activities.

Fostex is coming out with the TM2 adapter for IEM to make them true wireless so I'm definitely gonna get it for my IER-M9. Current setup = ES100 + M9
Would you prefer that instead?
 
Apr 17, 2019 at 9:55 AM Post #6,245 of 62,589
Hmm....a Fiio 3.5mm 40cm wire looks to be perfect for that combo :)

Question: It's obvious that SE846 will be vastly superior, why not use it for your commute as well? Are you just testing those earbuds? I don't see any incovenience using a BT adapter running under the shirt for those activities.

Fostex is coming out with the TM2 adapter for IEM to make them true wireless so I'm definitely gonna get it for my IER-M9. Current setup = ES100 + M9
Would you prefer that instead?

If I come off/crash I only loose/damage some cheap kit!

Also I find the BTR3 poor at keeping a signal when I have my phone in the bike holder bag behind me. It easily looses signal if body gets in the way
 
Apr 17, 2019 at 10:59 AM Post #6,246 of 62,589
Thanks for the advice on this thread. I've been using Phaiser BHS-790's at the gym. Love the sound, fit was ok, hated the durability. I received the freebie Galaxy Buds with my S10 pre-order and really enjoyed the true wireless form factor. I shelved the Phaiser's. But I found the sound quality of the Galaxy Buds unacceptable. A pity, because their integration with the S10 and wireless charging convenience is impressive. So I tried the Anbes 359 as recommended. Wow. This is what I'm grateful for. Wonderful fit, great sound. A great wireless solution for the gym. With the discounted price on Amazon right now, I'll order another pair as backup.
Glad you like the anbes it's so great for the price. Would you try the anbes 360 to see how they compare?
 
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Apr 17, 2019 at 12:40 PM Post #6,247 of 62,589
so i received my qcy t1 3 days ago and i have been using it since. I'm having an issue with it when it comes to playing music. It stops playing after 1 music and i have to turn on my phone for it to play to the next track. Also, the music starts playing for a bit and it stops. How can i fix this?
I have also noticed a couple of stopping issues like this and my left earbud sometimes stops working for several seconds, pausing and playing fixes it, but it's still annoying. I bought 2 pair, one is a T1s from joybuy, that came in some budget box packaging and some white T1c's from Aliexpress that came in the nice retail packaging. I haven't had any issues with the white ones. I wonder if there's any correlation? Where did you buy yours and what did the packaging look like?
 
Apr 17, 2019 at 1:04 PM Post #6,249 of 62,589
Hey, to anyone who ordered the sub-$10 eBay QCY T1C/QS1 about 3-4 weeks back, it was a scam listing and you will need to contact eBay directly to get a refund.

You can’t use the eBay automated process, because the listing and seller isn't even there anymore. So you’ll have to contact eBay by phone.

Never fear though; once I got a customer service rep on the phone, it was resolved with a full refund in under 5 minutes.

One of the reasons why I still love eBay.
 
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Apr 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Post #6,250 of 62,589
Hey, to anyone who ordered the sub-$10 eBay QCY T1C/QS1 about 3-4 weeks back, it was a scam listing and you will need to contact eBay directly to get a refund.

You can’t use the eBay automated process, because the listing isn't even there anymore. So you’ll have to contact eBay by phone.
Got my refund yesterday. Maybe it's a good thing I never got them. I still would try them with the volume controls.
 
Apr 17, 2019 at 3:39 PM Post #6,251 of 62,589
Hey, to anyone who ordered the sub-$10 eBay QCY T1C/QS1 about 3-4 weeks back, it was a scam listing and you will need to contact eBay directly to get a refund.

You can’t use the eBay automated process, because the listing and seller isn't even there anymore. So you’ll have to contact eBay by phone.

Never fear though; once I got a customer service rep on the phone, it was resolved with a full refund in under 5 minutes.

One of the reasons why I still love eBay.
Yea, I ordered 2 from 2 different sellers and I got a tracking number from one, addressed to someone else, and one with no tracking, I got my money back a couple weeks ago.
 
Apr 17, 2019 at 5:22 PM Post #6,252 of 62,589
Just sending some props to B&O. Sent my E8s in for repair as the case always had charging issues last week and they sent me a brand new pair yesterday. They aren't the 2.0 which I was hoping for but new none the less. Very happy with the service!
 
Apr 17, 2019 at 10:05 PM Post #6,255 of 62,589
I received my pair from this flash sale today. I immediately changed the tips to the Auvios. In the brief 10-15 minutes I have had with them, I must say, they are as awesome as our guys described them to be.

Quick tip: the buds have clear cellophane covering the charging connections so make sure you remove it. Also, the case wouldn’t charge from my usb-c to usb-c cable and power supply. I had to use the included usb-a to usb-c cable.
 

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