Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
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. Just throwing it out there 
erockg
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Okay, so I just listened to a few songs. High Fidelity mode.
These:
Quick hit. These things are immediately the best sounding TWS I own now. Granted, I've sold off a bunch of the big boys. The soundstage on the Svanar is very wide for a TWS. I love it. Close to cans wide. Instrument separation is stunning considering they only use one driver. I know there's all that other magic there but man, this is great. Using the highest LDAC settings my Pixel Fold offers. Nice sub-bass thump, not as nuts as the DPP, but cleaner and the perfect amount imo. Fit is soooooo much better than the DPP and the NFP/NFM. I used to have to EQ the latter to get a sound I preferred. So far, not feeling like the Svanar need it. I'm really enjoying how these are tuned. Sure, first blush, but you know. The case is much smaller than I thought it would be. Buds are like mini IEMs, with a nice inner carbon fiber shell. Before even turning them on, I swapped out the stock tips for some Final TWS tips and they seem to be perfect. I may so more experimenting with tip. Touch controls are fine. I DO miss volume controls on them, but I can deal. Auto pause works great. Qi charging works seemingly fine as well.
Very curious how these sound against my Clairvoyance with Shure Adapters.
Are the Svanar Wireless overpriced? Yes. But if you can swing the cost, they are worth it.
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helmutcheese
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These seem well spec'd apart from battery only 6 hour and only available in 2pin connector.
https://kz-audio.com/kz-az20.html
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005871949604.html
https://kz-audio.com/kz-az20.html
ļæ”74.57
ļæ”124.27 (40% off)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005871949604.html
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Gilroypro
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I don't trust KZ. They have released misleading TWS like 10 BA drivers per unit and that was nothing but fake. Now magically the Qualcomm QCC5171 can output 24/382khz transmission over Bluetooth. Yeah, this screams like another scam by that companyThese seem well spec'd apart from battery only 6 hour and only available in 2pin connector.
https://kz-audio.com/kz-az20.html
ļæ”74.57
ļæ”124.27 (40% off)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005871949604.html
Andrew_WOT
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How is the reception with LDAC 990kbps, stable enough, how far away can you move from the phone before interruptions start?
helmutcheese
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ALT AD2P Driver AAC Now final (not release preview).
https://www.bluetoothgoodies.com/a2dp/whats-new/
| 1.4.0 | 9/7/2023 | Windows 11 21H2 to 22H2 Windows 10 1903 to 22H2 | Improvements:
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https://www.bluetoothgoodies.com/a2dp/whats-new/
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Andrew_WOT
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Doesn't Win11 support AAC natively?
helmutcheese
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AFAIR the QCC5171 Chipset is 24 or 32/384 internally, it obviously cannot output that over BT but would not buy that brand anyway as seen previous models.
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helmutcheese
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Yes, same as aptX but he will add some settings you can tweak.
Some of my earbuds seem to be 16/48 in Windows via AAC and aptX but with his driver I can set to 16/44.1
He had to pay for the licence and there is a good deal:
The regular price of the license is $9.99, but if you purchase the license before the free trial period expires, you can get it for $5.99. (40% off) *
I got it for $2.99, I assume the reason is because I own his other products.
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helmutcheese
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AAC CODEC Support
Why are there two license editions?
I have a license that does not support AAC CODEC support. How can I try AAC CODEC?
Do I need AAC CODEC support?
If you don't know if you need it, it's probably unnecessary, but here are a few things you should know:- Windows 10 standard A2DP driver doesn't support AAC CODEC.
- So if you're using Windows 10, your headphones support AAC CODEC, and you want to make use of it, you can use the Alternative A2DP Driver's AAC CODEC support.
- Windows 11 standard A2DP driver DOES support AAC CODEC.
- It's support is basic (for example, the sampling frequency is fixed at 48kHz), but it works reasonably well. So if you don't need advanced features (such as dynamic sampling frequency switching), you don't need the Alternative A2DP Driver's AAC CODEC support.
- You can purchase a license without AAC CODEC support for now, and later, if it becomes necessary, you can upgrade to the "with AAC CODEC support" edition.
https://www.bluetoothgoodies.com/a2dp/faq/#do-i-need-aac
SynaestheticA
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Gotta remember in regards to the Noble Fokus Prestige that they were born via customer demand and not some marketing ploy to get more money from us. I'm sure the later will happen too but it's not Noble trying to hoodwink us.
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I'd love to see some reveal video / article on this .. I have been falling into that KZ "more and more drivers per bud" sinkhole a few years back until I just found it to be ridiculous ... and was always wondering if anyone ever bothered to crack them open and count (did not even consider they could just add some fake components in there)
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Got to demo the Sony WF-1000XM5 today in the airport of all places, though the manager seemed ticked off I didnāt buy on the spot (shouldnāt have a big ol ātry theseā sign then lol).
My only point of reference is the Denon PerL Pro at the moment.
In short: super comfortable, easy seal, excellent noise cancellation, responsive touch sensor. Very fun but not artificial signature that worked across any genre I threw at it.
For those wondering (as I once was), there is still a noticeable difference in terms of soundstage, detail, separation, and extension compared to the PerL and Fokus tws. Not that the Sonyās are bad, just that the others are really good (from purely a sound perspective).
Blessed to have been able to demo them since no stores near me ever do, and it finally assuaged my curiosity (or anxiety?) that the higher-tier are indeed a different level.
My only point of reference is the Denon PerL Pro at the moment.
In short: super comfortable, easy seal, excellent noise cancellation, responsive touch sensor. Very fun but not artificial signature that worked across any genre I threw at it.
For those wondering (as I once was), there is still a noticeable difference in terms of soundstage, detail, separation, and extension compared to the PerL and Fokus tws. Not that the Sonyās are bad, just that the others are really good (from purely a sound perspective).
Blessed to have been able to demo them since no stores near me ever do, and it finally assuaged my curiosity (or anxiety?) that the higher-tier are indeed a different level.
jsmiller58
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I havenāt tried the DPP, but am really aching toā¦ will wait till a good sale (if one ever happens) to pick them up. I have the Mystique and XM5, and I agree with you that the SQ of the Noble are just amazing and well beyond the XM5. But, there is an important distinctionā¦ the XM5 have ANC, which the Noble donāt have, and the sound quality is still pretty good, just not on the level of the Mystique. If I donāt need ANC, I reach for the Mystique. If I need ANC I reach for the XM5, or another ANC TWS. Different horses for different courses, as the saying goes.
VICosPhi
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The Noble prestige still don't have ANC though, correct?
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