Don't worry Lizarking1, I'm not trying to convert you into a pop lover by any means.
Just expected more objectivity from you.
It's impossible to have a general clause of discussion etiquette to encompass all music genres and then apply it as such to each one.
Each is judged and viewed differently within the context of its inherit nature. And I disagree, if people are to discuss pop, then the whole scope of the beast is being discussed, from music, sounds, keys, notes, lyrics, writing and performance.
And I'm sorry to say this, but the Mcdonald's analogy doesn't work here either, unless you're directly countering the sales aspect of my discussion. But that's not the whole point, just part of it. After all, Mcdonlad's doesn't advertise itself as quality nor healthy food, rather fast food. And Mcdonald's has the chain restaurants, but its focal business is actually real estate. But if after all of this you still claim that Beiber isn't any good because you simply can't appreciate his music, then I really don't know what else to say. Hey, I don't like his music, I almost gag when I hear Baby... but... give credit where credit is due. He's good performer, good singer and has showmanship.
This by definition makes him 'good'.
On the other note, I was at best buy today getting an invisishield on my iphone-4, and while I was there, unhooked The Monster pros from the Display Ipod and plugged it into my phone. I haven't heard them in a while, so decided to hear a nice little Full-On Psytrance track on them... And.. well, definitely not as detailed as Shure SRH440... But, not that far off. Good instrument separation and decent soundstage. Base is prominent, but extends way way better than Studios and Solos. They do lack a certain resolution and some sparkle that you'd expect from Electronic music, which makes then slightly laid back. But the mids and vocals are present.. it's just that they don't sound that harsh.. well nothing compared to the Studio's harshness. In fact, I tried a few other display models (which I could not unplug and try on my own phone), which were fed through one source. One stand had Bose AE2 and Studios. Another had Bose OE ($179 retail, not sure which model), SkullCandy Aviators. The first display, Studios sounded better to me over the Bose. And the Aviators sounded better than all of them put together. I still think that at $179 is too much, more like $120 - $140 would be good for them. But, that said, they're very portable, easily driven, fairly comfy and not too fatiguing. They seem to suit Rock/Dance/Trance and House really well. They remind me a bit of the Kicker HP541 sound Signature. Good bass impact, punchy and fairly decent extension. Slightly forward, but not overly forward. Overall warmer sound signature with present mids and highs, but not too harsh no fatiguing, and slight sparkle in the treble department. Could be sibilant at times, but nothing worth complaining about.
No call outs though.
