May 27, 2011 at 8:10 PM Post #46 of 152
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Well this changes the game considerably for me then. I went out and bought the Denon AH-C351 again and am convinced these are the IEMs for me. So if I am correct, its their sound signature which I am in love with. Now my question to you, or anyone else for that matter, is how do I proceed with upgrading? How do I get a technically improved product within the same sound signature? Does this mean that I stick with Denon products? Even though I believe the 351 is a foster product...

Any advice and/or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.


Well first off, I'd like to mention that I don't think the FX67 is technically hampered just because it's cheap. There are parts of the sound that simply are just better than other IEMs I've tried. Other parts such as bass, are extremely subjective to judge. The Golds are known to have deep extension, great impact, and a smooth texture. The FX67 might not extend as low, have as much impact, or be as smooth, but that doesn't mean they score lower. Do you see what I mean? Mainly, it's about what sounds good to you as apposed to advances in technology and sound quality. That said, I do appreciate good sound quality, or else I wouldn't have my HE-500. But it really has to be a sound that you like in order for you to really appreciate it. The DT880 is a high end headphone that has excellent technical qualities, yet I didn't like the sound. The AD900 is less technically advanced, yet it had a sound I appreciated much more. Based on a 50/50 between sound quality and sound presentation, the presentation is the most important thing one will usually look for. When you can find something that sounds to your liking AND has excellent sound quality is when you hit the sweet spot.
 
You don't have to stick with Denon just because you like the IEM, as they all will sound different. You just have to pick what you like about the sound, and search for a headphone that matches those specifications. But you really just have to try around, and see what your ears tell you. Because I wouldn't have thought in a million years that a $20 IEM would beat everything else I've tried regardless of price. Technically? Pretty impressive for the price. Presentation? Absolutely amazing. Making it a winner in my book.
 
May 27, 2011 at 9:29 PM Post #47 of 152
In the "technical" area, these really outperform their price. Like I said these bring out very good detail although they don't extend too low but extend pretty nicely high.
 
May 28, 2011 at 8:55 AM Post #48 of 152


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Well first off, I'd like to mention that I don't think the FX67 is technically hampered just because it's cheap. There are parts of the sound that simply are just better than other IEMs I've tried. Other parts such as bass, are extremely subjective to judge. The Golds are known to have deep extension, great impact, and a smooth texture. The FX67 might not extend as low, have as much impact, or be as smooth, but that doesn't mean they score lower. Do you see what I mean? Mainly, it's about what sounds good to you as apposed to advances in technology and sound quality. That said, I do appreciate good sound quality, or else I wouldn't have my HE-500. But it really has to be a sound that you like in order for you to really appreciate it. The DT880 is a high end headphone that has excellent technical qualities, yet I didn't like the sound. The AD900 is less technically advanced, yet it had a sound I appreciated much more. Based on a 50/50 between sound quality and sound presentation, the presentation is the most important thing one will usually look for. When you can find something that sounds to your liking AND has excellent sound quality is when you hit the sweet spot.
 
You don't have to stick with Denon just because you like the IEM, as they all will sound different. You just have to pick what you like about the sound, and search for a headphone that matches those specifications. But you really just have to try around, and see what your ears tell you. Because I wouldn't have thought in a million years that a $20 IEM would beat everything else I've tried regardless of price. Technically? Pretty impressive for the price. Presentation? Absolutely amazing. Making it a winner in my book.


I think that you hit the nail on the head there mate. I just need to try out more IEMs because too be honest reading up on them gets me nowhere, opinions and impressions are just to subjective for me to make a decision based on them. Its just a real shame that in the Netherlands atleast trying IEMs is not an option, often if you buy them once you can not return them either. Ah well, it seems that finding that sweet spot you mentioned will probably entail a journey similar to yours then. Now would'nt it be ironic if after all that I would end up with the C351 again? Lol. Fun times.
 
 
May 28, 2011 at 11:05 AM Post #49 of 152
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I think that you hit the nail on the head there mate. I just need to try out more IEMs because too be honest reading up on them gets me nowhere, opinions and impressions are just to subjective for me to make a decision based on them. Its just a real shame that in the Netherlands atleast trying IEMs is not an option, often if you buy them once you can not return them either. Ah well, it seems that finding that sweet spot you mentioned will probably entail a journey similar to yours then. Now would'nt it be ironic if after all that I would end up with the C351 again? Lol. Fun times.


Thanks. I hope it wasn't too confusing, but it seems like you understood what I meant. I always know what I want to say, I just have a hard time putting them into words.
 
Well, that may just happen. It happened with me, except the FX67 wasn't my very first IEM. But even after going up the latter, I realized my target was back on the ground.
 
 
May 31, 2011 at 11:04 AM Post #50 of 152
Hi!
 
I totally concur with your review. These fx67 are really a gem. Although with a clear V response curve the mids are still very present rendering the phones pretty balanced. I am a JVC fan and indeed own several JVC IEMs: fx33 (also 10€ phones which were well acclaimed here some time ago), fx66,  fx300, fx500 and fx700. It's interesting that from the specs you can't tell the fx66 and fx67 apart. Same driver's size, same FR, same sensivity. However, there's a huuuge difference, the fx66 are a 10€ phone while the 67 are really something different and on another league.
 
The fx67 are the phones I've always got with me (they go inside my keychain). They're still a bit on the bassy side and so I tend to use small tips, either the original or sony hybrids.
 
Cheers,
rcmo
 
May 31, 2011 at 1:36 PM Post #52 of 152
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Excuse me, are you talking about this very model ?
 
http://www.pixmania.com/it/it/4866744/art/jvc/auricolari-ha-fx67-b-e.html
 
Thank you very much indeed
Kind regards,
gino


Those look the same as my FX67s...tho I can't read whatever language that's in to be sure on the description or anything.  :)
 
 
May 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM Post #55 of 152
Yup, those sure are the FX67's.
 
I find them on the bassy side as well. Sometimes, depending on the music, I will actually EQ the bass down slightly, and the mids up to achieve the best balance. It all really depends on what you like and what music you listen to though. But I highly recommend that every owner of the FX67, experiment with the EQ extensively. I've found probably 2 or 3 different EQ settings I really, really appreciate; and probably like more than flat. Just depends on the day, and the song.
 
May 31, 2011 at 7:29 PM Post #56 of 152
I might have to look into this.
 
I use PL50s as my gym buds, but I really just don't like their signature at all. I can put on my bassiest music, and can hardly feel a thing. I kinda hate being a bass-head sometimes...
 
May 31, 2011 at 8:29 PM Post #57 of 152
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I might have to look into this.
 
I use PL50s as my gym buds, but I really just don't like their signature at all. I can put on my bassiest music, and can hardly feel a thing. I kinda hate being a bass-head sometimes...


I used to be the biggest bass head you could ever imagine. It was my #1 priority in music, and seriously wouldn't consider a headphone without super good bass. Although my tastes have changed now and I strive for a more balanced and upfront sound, I still have those bass head roots in me, and crave bass for certain music. And let me tell you, the FX67's satisfy me perfectly. I cannot help but smile ear to ear on my "bass oriented" music. These are absolutely fantastic in the bass department, and it's not the slightest bit overbearing or fatiguing either. It actually reminds me a lot of the Pro 900, in which the bass knows it's place, yet possesses incredible presence. I think you should give these a shot, I have a feeling you'd love them.
 
 
May 31, 2011 at 8:43 PM Post #58 of 152


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I used to be the biggest bass head you could ever imagine. It was my #1 priority in music, and seriously wouldn't consider a headphone without super good bass. Although my tastes have changed now and I strive for a more balanced and upfront sound, I still have those bass head roots in me, and crave bass for certain music. And let me tell you, the FX67's satisfy me perfectly. I cannot help but smile ear to ear on my "bass oriented" music. These are absolutely fantastic in the bass department, and it's not the slightest bit overbearing or fatiguing either. It actually reminds me a lot of the Pro 900, in which the bass knows it's place, yet possesses incredible presence. I think you should give these a shot, I have a feeling you'd love them.
 


I should definitely try them. If I love them half as much as my Turbine Golds, I'm never gonna wanna take them to the gym. :D
 
 

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