[AudioManNewb]

Quick question should I go for Burson Fun amp into my Sound Blaster AE-5 or sell that off to a buddy of mine and go for Burson Play for my fostex T60RP. My uses are competitive gaming and any form of heavy rock metal ect....
Currently I only have the baffle mod on my T60RP will upgrade pads eventually.

 

[Asahi Templar]

Quick question should I go for Burson Fun amp into my Sound Blaster AE-5 or sell that off to a buddy of mine and go for Burson Play for my fostex T60RP. My uses are competitive gaming and any form of heavy rock metal ect....
Currently I only have the baffle mod on my T60RP will upgrade pads eventually.

That is a bit of a tough call. If the AE-5 has a line out mode, it could be worth keeping on as a DAC especially if you wanted to use the creative DSPs. If it doesnt have a line out mode, you will be doubling amping your headphones which is not ideal.

The Fun is a better amp (more power and dual-mono design) than the Play but I am not sure how noticeable the difference will be as the design is pretty similar. Play still has plenty of power for the t60rp.

The Play uses 3 more dual op amps for the DAC section which means the effect of OP amps is stronger. If you want to do a lot of op amp rolling the Play is better.

I had some issues with the Play having a USB ground loop which was giving some noise which is why I ended up returning it and getting the Fun with the Topping D50. Some others had that issue too but others were fine, so it may not be an issue for you.

If you are looking to save some money you might even try just the basic version of the Play, at $299 its really quite an amazing value. Never got a chance to try it with the T60RP but even the basic version was very good with my 650, better than the Magni/Modi Multibit I tested it against. I do think the Vivid op amps are an improvement, especially for games as the improved soundstaging and dynamics was very useful there.

Burson lets you return things within 30 days, you just have to pay return shipping and 5% restocking fee, so you could always get the Basic Play or Fun and then buy the Op amps to test them out and see if you like the sound.

If you do buy the Fun you should actually buy the OP amps separately anyway because its slightly cheaper than buying them pre-installed as long as you are comfortable doing it yourself ( it is very easy to do).

 

[AudioManNewb]

Well the only problem I see is that on the sound card the line in is shared with the mic in. So I could only have mic or headphones so guess that solves that problem easily seems like a hassle. The play is looking even more appealing at this moment. If I get play basic and upgrade the opamp what is the difference between Vivid Dual and Vivid Single?

 

[Asahi Templar]

Well the only problem I see is that on the sound card the line in is shared with the mic in. So I could only have mic or headphones so guess that solves that problem easily seems like a hassle. The play is looking even more appealing at this moment. If I get play basic and upgrade the opamp what is the difference between Vivid Dual and Vivid Single?

You would be looking for a line out not a line in. It is probably built into to the headphone connector if it has it. There would be a way to set it into line out mode from the creative control panel. I think the Z series had that function, but dont know about the newer ones. A proper line out function would cause it to bypass the headphone amp and just give the dac signal unamped.

The Play uses 5 OP amps, 3 dual and 2 single. So you would want all 5 if you want to completely vivid it out. The singles make less difference though because they are used in the amp/pre amp staging which doesnt influence the sound as much as the other 3 do.

 

[AudioManNewb]

How many OP-AMPs of what kind does the Burson Fun use?

 

[HungryPanda]

Shouldn't this be an amp thread question rather than a headphone thread?

 

[AudioManNewb]

Why make a whole new thread for a simple question? I own a pair of Fostex T60RP was looking for something to power them other than my sound cards headphone amp.

 

[Asahi Templar]

How many OP-AMPs of what kind does the Burson Fun use?

It uses 2 single op amps only. There is already a thread for the Play and the Fun which I recommend. The Play one is particularly useful as there is a lot of info about various op amps that people have tested along with lots of impressions.

 

[AudioManNewb]

Probably going to go with a play with vivid thank you. Should the Schiit magni 3 be avoided if so any reason why?

 

[Artyouth]

Listened my new M1060 two days. Now I understand how good this Fostex driver.
Especially the texture of instrument, for example a bamboo stick hit a rock, T60 can hear how thick, how hollow and how dry this stick is. What I'm hearing may not be the exact texture sound but at least I have a conceivable texture in mind. (my T20 mod even better on texture imaging)

Compare with the Fostex rp, M1060 sounds not PLANAR anymore. M1060 sounds relax, airy then the T60 but not immersive as my T20 mod. And it's soundstage, sub bass extension and mid bass slam also can't compare with the Open Alpha cup.
However, if compare with my HD600, M1060 IS quite PLANAR.

Hope the towel paper or fuzor etc mods will gain somethings that the rp miss (micro dynamic may be).

 

[Light - Man]

Guys, is there a dedicated mod thread for the Fostex T20-40-50-60RP Mark3 series yet?

If so can you provide the link or if not is someone interested in starting one?

Otherwise I will start one in the next few days and welcome everyone who is interested (as it has been made very clear that we are not welcome here).

 

[rendyG]

Guys, is there a dedicated mod thread for the Fostex T20-40-50-60RP Mark3 series yet?

If so can you provide the link or if not is someone interested in starting one?

Otherwise I will start one in the next few days and welcome everyone who is interested (as it has been made very clear that we are not welcome here).

I'm in, I tried a lot already, from basic mk3 modding (as seen in my sig), to Open Alpha project from Mrspeakers.. still in progress I guess, coz I'm still not satisfied with sound, I guess coz of HM5 hybrid pads I am using... Probably gonna jump on zmf pads soon

 

[kintsaki]

Listened my new M1060 two days. Now I understand how good this Fostex driver.
Especially the texture of instrument, for example a bamboo stick hit a rock, T60 can hear how thick, how hollow and how dry this stick is. What I'm hearing may not be the exact texture sound but at least I have a conceivable texture in mind. (my T20 mod even better on texture imaging)

Compare with the Fostex rp, M1060 sounds not PLANAR anymore. M1060 sounds relax, airy then the T60 but not immersive as my T20 mod. And it's soundstage, sub bass extension and mid bass slam also can't compare with the Open Alpha cup.
However, if compare with my HD600, M1060 IS quite PLANAR.

Hope the towel paper or fuzor etc mods will gain somethings that the rp miss (micro dynamic may be).

what is the open Alpha mod?

 

[kintsaki]

Guys, is there a dedicated mod thread for the Fostex T20-40-50-60RP Mark3 series yet?

If so can you provide the link or if not is someone interested in starting one?

Otherwise I will start one in the next few days and welcome everyone who is interested (as it has been made very clear that we are not welcome here).

I am also in

 

[rendyG]

what is the open Alpha mod?

Dan from Mrspeakers was so amazing that he made his Alpha Dog know-how open source, after he stopped producing them. So now enthusiast can 3D print the cups themselves and make so called Open Alpha headphones. Usually much cheaper if you can find a place where to print your cups for reasonable price

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/open-alpha-t50-3d-printed-headphone-project-from-mrspeakers.825868/