[Cheradenine]

Thanks for that.

The size of the ports or vents is not always directly related to the amount of isolation, which is where it gets tricky. Probably because of the internal architecture of the earpieces. Sometimes a single port is enough to let in a lot, other times there’s an entire grille but barely a peep gets through.
How is isolation on the E5000 compared to the E3000?

I don't think the venting makes much difference to isolation. I think the shell or housing design and eartip make the most difference, I mentioned it because its often assumed that vented makes it open backed. I find the A4000 isolation very good, similar to Etymotic er2 with Final E type tips in my ears, its improved with foam tips.

The E5000 is a similar design but a bit bigger, it doesn't have the perforated back plate, there is a vent but its hidden somewhere. In my ears the tip is the only point of contact, it holds the IEM in place with the housing sticking straight out from it like a joystick, much like the rest of the E series. It is very comfortable to use laying on my side with my head on a pillow, it looks like it wouldn't be but, the housing can move around like a joystick without affecting the sound because of the E type tip's design, rather than shove the IEM further into the ear. I don't have a massive collection of IEMs but I haven't heard anything that sounds like the e5000, it needs a lot of power, I don't mean some power station of a desktop amp, I just mean a decent dongle or portable amp.

 

[dakanao]

Really is a gamble when it comes to the E series. This is why I always suggest E4000/E5000 over E2000/E3000, not because they have better QC (they don't), but because with 2 pairs of E4000 you have 4 combinations to get right the channel matching, with 3 pairs you have 8. I had 5 pairs at one point, and I can pick out multiple pairs of good match even as they age / burn in.

I have noticed that the QC is slightly better on E500 / E1000, may be due to the design. With no concrete evidence, only my anecdotal experience, I find that My E500 lasts longer before they go channel imbalance than my E4000, who receives the same amount of wear and tear. I remember one of my E4000 going channel imbalance because I worked out with it in my pocket, and maybe the sweat soaked through. Never happened on an E500.

Another thing that makes me suggest the E4000/E5000 over E2000/E3000 is that, with the E-series bullet design, it is not that hard to get a sound similar to E2000/E3000 from a E4000/E5000. Get some bright-sounding eartips (e.g. moondrop spring tip), go a size larger to get a shallower fit, or switch to a brighter sounding cable.

The stock tips, while they reduce the quantity of the uppermids and treble relative to wide bore tips, the quality gets more resonant/harsh in the note attack, due to the small bore resonanting the sound from the nozzle.

I thought they sounded like crap when I heard them with the stock tips, and was the reason I sold my first pair of the E3000. And when I tried my current E3000 for the first time with the stock tips, it was even harsher than my first E3000. I often wonder how non-fatiguing my first E3000 would be with my current mods.

it wasn’t after the JVC Spiral Dots and foam tips that I could see why they’re top tier for the price in their timbre.

 

[Edric Li]

The stock tips, while they reduce the quantity of the uppermids and treble relative to wide bore tips, the quality gets more resonant/harsh in the note attack, due to the small bore resonanting the sound from the nozzle.

I thought they sounded like crap when I heard them with the stock tips, and was the reason I sold my first pair of the E3000. And when I tried my current E3000 for the first time with the stock tips, it was even harsher than my first E3000. I often wonder how non-fatiguing my first E3000 would be with my current mods.

it wasn’t after the JVC Spiral Dots and foam tips that I could see why they’re top tier for the price in their timbre.

Final E tips actually has distinctively the most uppermids and the least treble among all popular eartips.

But I get what you're saying. Tip rolling definitely impacts the sound significantly, given the shallow nozzle design and the ability to adjust insertion depth as you like, beyond trying to get E4000/5000 to sound like E2000/3000.

 

[dakanao]

Final E tips actually has distinctively the most uppermids and the least treble among all popular eartips.

But I get what you're saying. Tip rolling definitely impacts the sound significantly, given the shallow nozzle design and the ability to adjust insertion depth as you like, beyond trying to get E4000/5000 to sound like E2000/3000.

Yeah the E tips just sound harsh to me. Spiral Dots and foam tips are actually smoother sounding quality wise if you cut the stem off a little bit, so that the nozzle is closer to the end of the tip.

Quantity wise, they’re brighter than not cutting off the stem, but you can easily remedy this with some cotton in the eartip.

 

[AnalogEuphoria]

It’s all personal preference Ofcourse, imo the final tips are the most balanced but others alter the sound too much. Like with everything ymmy.

 

[F700]

I consider my E5000 properly driven

 

[Edric Li]

I consider my E5000 properly driven

Your z1r + Calyx M combo gotta sound ear-bleeding after getting used to this lol

 

[F700]

Your z1r + Calyx M combo gotta sound ear-bleeding after getting used to this lol

Mmmhhh not as much as one might think actually , because I am lucky enough to have a CIEM-like fit with the Z1R and the Calyx M definitely is warmer than the LPGT.

Good IEMs, good source, good amping, good synergy and good tunes = happy listener

 

[F700]

Someone thinking about getting a pair of E5000?

Check this (secured myself a backup set right away)

 

[AnalogEuphoria]

Impressions soon, spoiler; I like them a lot!

 

[Herman]

And so you should. These are great IEM!

 

[o0genesis0o]

So I finally acquired a Topping G5. E5000 sounds like a different IEM with this clean and very powerful DAC/AMP. It‘s just incredible. The bass becomes tight and sub-bass focused, so I feel the punch deep in my throat. Midrange becomes more transparent and crisp. The soundstage becomes large, almost surrounding. (I tested with G.O.A.T. by Polyphonia).

I need to readjust the rating of my E5000 in my ranking list TOTL performance right here.

 

[musicasmedicine]

Hi guys, due to personal finance reasons, I’m selling a near perfect condition A8000. Please message me if interested. Thanks!

 

[someyoungguy]

Just got a pair of ZE3000. I haven't used TWS much in the past - or IEMs for that matter. But over the last few months I've tried Sennheiser Momentum 3 wireless & Apple Airpods Pro 2. But man the clarity of vocals on the ZE3000 is something else. I think I actually prefer the simplicity of it too - no app, no EQ, no sound changes with noise cancelling, etc.

On another note - did they stop making the UX3000? I can't find it listed for sale anywhere here. Maybe I'll try a pair of their wired IEMs, they seem pretty reasonably priced, and it's a massive jump up to their D8000 series headphones

 

[AnalogEuphoria]

It’s been a little while since I got the E5000, the idea was to find an upgrade to my daily driver E3000 but I haven’t had much luck, the E5000 is the closest I’ve got but it’s still not perfect. E5000 is exceptional for the price, fantasy quality bass, beautiful midrange clarity and smooth detailed treble. The biggest problem I have with them though is they are not an all rounder like E3000 and can really suffer with with a lot of music sounding over bassy and dark. E4000 is a better all rounder but doesn’t have the resolution or realism timbre of the 5000. The search still goes on!

Interesting note is that I didn’t find high power to transform this earphone like many others have said. It actually sounds almost as good out of the apple dongle with compressed music being loud around 50-60% although I do have to mention with more power the bass did tighten up a bit.

E5000 is incredible value but only for specific genres or recordings imo.