[FiiO M11] Android 7.0, 2.5/3.5/4.4 Powerful Output, Exynos 7872, Dual AK4493 DAC chips, 3GB RAM, WiFi, Two-way LDAC

Oct 8, 2019 at 9:17 AM Post #6,886 of 9,308
Yes. I've never quite understood this. On a sort of side-note why use a good DAP with a Bluetooth dongle like the BTR3? Is it any better than using a LDAC capable phone? That's a genuine question, not rhetorical!

I'm finding that the M11 bluetooth with AptX HD, when paired with a similarly capable receiver (I use the Blu-Dento HD), and flac source material, is easily good enough to work well with my not-audiophile-grade stereo system. It sounds _great_. Will Is till think so if I upgrade my stereo? Don't know. I'm thinking about it so perhaps we'll find out.

I would be leary about lower quality bluetooth codecs, so I shun anything that isn't AptX HD, and it's one of the reasons I bought the M11. Of course there isn't much AptX HD stuff out there to buy, so that's a challenge, but more rolls out every day.

That said, wires for the win, I'm not putting together a deliberate bluetooth ecosystem, just using it where and when it's convenient. But if I want quality I use wires.

(And of course I also use it with my headphones, but the convenience of bluetooth is great, and using the M11 as the central source of ALL my music feeds is also great. Good music wherever I go and whatever I'm listening to).
 
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Oct 8, 2019 at 9:45 AM Post #6,887 of 9,308
I'm finding that the M11 bluetooth with AptX HD, when paired with a similarly capable receiver (I use the Blu-Dento HD), and flac source material, is easily good enough to work well with my not-audiophile-grade stereo system. It sounds _great_. Will Is till think so if I upgrade my stereo? Don't know. I'm thinking about it so perhaps we'll find out.

I would be leary about lower quality bluetooth codecs, so I shun anything that isn't AptX HD, and it's one of the reasons I bought the M11. Of course there isn't much AptX HD stuff out there to buy, so that's a challenge, but more rolls out every day.

That said, wires for the win, I'm not putting together a deliberate bluetooth ecosystem, just using it where and when it's convenient. But if I want quality I use wires.

(And of course I also use it with my headphones, but the convenience of bluetooth is great, and using the M11 as the central source of ALL my music feeds is also great. Good music wherever I go and whatever I'm listening to).
yeah, Im a great user of BT when it's convenient :-) and it does sound fine. One thing I'd like to see in the Fiio app is Chromecast support. I know the M11 can do CC, I run CloudPlayer on it and use CC regularly. Seems like an odd omission for the "swiss army knife" of players.
 
Oct 8, 2019 at 11:54 AM Post #6,889 of 9,308
Only if you approach this on an emotional basis
My niece has an iPod and I know how it sounds, I also had M11 and I can clearly feel the difference in sound between the two devices. To hear the difference between different devices, you need to listen to them with good headphones, at least at the level of Fiio FH5 or better. The lower the quality level of the headphones, the harder it is to determine the difference in the sound of different devices.
 
Oct 8, 2019 at 12:48 PM Post #6,890 of 9,308
My niece has an iPod and I know how it sounds, I also had M11 and I can clearly feel the difference in sound between the two devices. To hear the difference between different devices, you need to listen to them with good headphones, at least at the level of Fiio FH5 or better. The lower the quality level of the headphones, the harder it is to determine the difference in the sound of different devices.

At no point did I say they sounded the same...did I? I said the delta between the sound quality of those 2 devices is substantially smaller than the gap in features and functionality
 
Oct 9, 2019 at 3:27 AM Post #6,892 of 9,308
Have the same issues!



Have tried some of the same steps with no result.



@FiiO I have my FiiO M11 and my Samsung A8 (2018) side by sie. On the FiiO M11 only wheel spinning on the Samsung A8 direct play back.



I agree with you.



This is fascinating. I downloaded whole playlists and I still get the circling play/pause button. It also does not work independent if the playlist or songs are HD or Ultra HD.

Do not know if this is helpful. On my FiiO M11 also on Qobuz when I start my first song of a playlist which is completely downloaded (CD quality) it takes incredible long to start. Often like 30 seconds. This is not the case with the FiiO M9 or any other device.

Other thought my FiiO M11 is not shown in the device list of my amazon music settings. Might this be the reason?

To add to this, for me so far, the playback of the downloaded files initially worked well for a while and then became erratic, sometimes they would play, often not. I then tried the potential workaround mentioned by Fiio (post #6662), this so far seems to work. So for me within the Amazon Music App I initially select and play a hi res flac file already on the sd card (An old Onkyo purchased Led Zeppelin Custard Pie @ 96K). I then navigate to the already downloaded HD and Ultra HD files and they playback fine (again so far!). Can't check if streaming works or not as I live in rural Scotland where fibre broadband hasn't been invented yet.
 
Oct 10, 2019 at 7:42 AM Post #6,895 of 9,308
Anything I should know when buying micro-SD cards for the FiiO M11?
I remember getting burnt when buying a 1TB USB stick because of the capacity only to find out it's slow (that is, it clocks out immediately) to the point of being useless.
 
Oct 10, 2019 at 7:44 AM Post #6,896 of 9,308
Anything I should know when buying micro-SD cards for the FiiO M11?
I remember getting burnt when buying a 1TB USB stick because of the capacity only to find out it's slow (that is, it clocks out immediately) to the point of being useless.
Avoid Lexar. Genuine Sandisk should be fine.
 
Oct 10, 2019 at 8:27 AM Post #6,897 of 9,308
Anything I should know when buying micro-SD cards for the FiiO M11?
I remember getting burnt when buying a 1TB USB stick because of the capacity only to find out it's slow (that is, it clocks out immediately) to the point of being useless.
MicroSD memory cards, I purchased in the official Samsung store on AliExpress. I did not observe any problems with the cards of this company. Cards purchased at this store have been working without problems for several years. I advise you to purchase! Store Link: https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/32610125064.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.626f33edocsXS9
 
Oct 10, 2019 at 9:16 AM Post #6,898 of 9,308
Anything I should know when buying micro-SD cards for the FiiO M11?
I remember getting burnt when buying a 1TB USB stick because of the capacity only to find out it's slow (that is, it clocks out immediately) to the point of being useless.
Fiio posted a note somewhere in this conference about cards to avoid and the electrical situation that is involved, if I can find a link I will.
 
Oct 10, 2019 at 9:19 AM Post #6,899 of 9,308
Oct 10, 2019 at 11:09 AM Post #6,900 of 9,308
There is a new update to the hiby app and it shows, that the hiby app does not recognize the fiio correctly. If you go to the new usb settings and select fixed outpu sampling rate it shows only 48khz the otherones are listed as not supported. Is there a way to access the dac properly with the hiby app?
My second problem is, that i can't activate the neutron app. I bought it and installed it. I went to help and registered my email (posteo.de) but it wount work. I tried every pop-Adress. It's just not possible to get a good EQ for my FIIO
 
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