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FiiO M11-Android 7.0, 2.5/3.5/4.4 Powerful Output, Exynos 7872, Dual AK4493 DAC chips, 3GB RAM, WiFi, Two-way LDAC

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by FiiO, Mar 19, 2019.
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  1. Caguioa
    was seeing all options i could do to make it loud enough
     
  2. abitdeef
    Only thing you can do is turn up m11 all the way, or use ldac. I've got these cheapie Sony wireless buds and they get loud! Not as loud as the amp in the dap, it never is unless you use a good bluetooth dongle, well it will get as loud as the 3.5 in low gain but otherwise it depends on the built in amp of the speaker or headphones.

    The bluetooth protocol makes a difference also.
     
  3. mattg3
    Anyone had any luck with wireless transfer of music to M11 using iTunes on an iMac? I brought up the transfer screen but when I try to drag and drop songs into the square where it says to do it, nothing happens. Im on same strong network as the computer with the M11 but no luck. Do you need to have the MTP driver installed in the iMac to make this work?
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2019
  4. Ojisan
    Ok, a follow up to my earlier problem.

    It appears that when I have the M11 connected to USB port of my desktop PC (Dell Optiplex) and I play through the balanced port (2.5 or 4.4) from muted condition (after 15sec power down), I get a very loud buzz when I start to play again. The attached ZIP https://www.dropbox.com/s/4w0rk8gbjx29b7y/M11 Noise .m4a?dl=0 captures the noise heard (volume warning! It's very annoying!).

    If I unplug the USB the noise goes away. The problem does not seem to happen on 3.5mm port.

    Any similar experience or guidance with this? It's not a ground loop hum. Maybe some ground isolation issue?
     
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  5. fatmanny
    Has anyone found a document explaining all the different options settings? I don't know much about all the different modes and stuff...enter technical jargon here.
     
  6. ExpatinJapan
    I haven't tried to contact the M11 to my mac yet.
    Just used a Micro SD card i already had.

    But with other Android based daps i usually use the free ‘Android file transfer’ app (for mac)
     
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  7. DarthMarth
    I thought this player had access to the full Android app store. Is this true? All I can find is the list of FiiO recommended applications, mostly other music apps. (This is my first real Android device, still figuring things out)
     
  8. Ojisan
    Rocking out!

    M11.jpg
     
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  9. Vitandus
    Nope. It’s based on Android 7 and Google restricts Play to OS 8+
     
  10. abitdeef
    Below that list is other apps. And apkpure is one of them, you can use that to download and install other apps.
     
  11. superuser1
    I know this is totally OT but you informed gentlemen would know the fastest (reliable) microSD card read.. kindly enlighten me please!
     
  12. gLer
    Yep, sounds like it’s definitely your IEMs, not the M11, although the tuning of the M11 will also determine how IEMs respond to it.
     
  13. FOBean
    MUCH appreciated for the info and the opinion bro :)
     
  14. Currawong Contributor
    Mega reply incoming...

    I was testing how different Bluetooth codecs sound by using two DAPs, and found that some DAPs were sending a lower volume level over BT than others. I'm not sure what is up with that either, but I'm going to test everything I have and see what I can nail down.

    Something I did find is that even if the M11 and other DAPs are set to output LDAC, that doesn't mean that they will. If the receiving device can't do LDAC then you'll usually get SBC, or APTx if you're lucky. Since a lot of headphones don't indicate what codec they are receiving it's luck of the draw.

    It's worth noting how extremely easy it is to be fooled by gain settings. Even a 1dB increase in volume can sound better when comparing two things, so it is easy to think that higher gain settings sound better, when really they are identical in performance. This still gets me from time-to-time as the illusion is very convincing.

    Someone already answered this, but since it comes up often, a Bluetooth transmitter doesn't have a "sound" as it is only transmitting digital. The only way this can be changed transmitting digital audio is by changing between SBC, AAC, APTx and LDAC essentially, which use different (lossy) compression schemes to send the audio.

    $200/amp module certainly wasn't appealing.

    Dead silent while tracks are playing? Some super-sensitive IEMs will still pick up hiss, but this only during silent parts during music. I should really make a file of silence to test hiss.

    I suspect some apps, after being run, keep processing in the background, causing the battery to drain faster even when not playing. I should have tested DSD battery performance, now I think of it.

    Some DAPs seem to be tuned a bit warm, deliberately. I find the FiiO sound to be a too perfect for my tastes too. Something you can try is changing the digital filter to one of the slow ones. You might like them better.

    The THX amp module might be a good match with the X7II. I found that its DAC performance exceeded that of the amp modules like the AM3A, so if the THX module is an upgrade, then that's a good thing. I should test the M11's DAC performance. I forgot to do that.

    You should learn some better manners for posting online, as you aren't helping anyone with your aggressive, and sometimes rude comments. You could have posted the same comments in a way that was helpful and had more effect. I suggest if you cannot write a post without being aggressive and rude, that you don't post at all, nor even come to this forum any more.

    Please DO list them (maybe it'd make for a good, separate thread) and explain, briefly, all the things you didn't like about the DAPs you bought. You might cop a bit of flak for your comments, but I (and other people) find "journey" threads to be interesting.

    I have over 1k songs and no problem with embedded album art. I find the art only shows up after the scrolling stops. Someone suggested to me getting a Sandisk Extreme or similar for better performance. I'm guessing the FiiO music app doesn't cache the art.

    I use rsync in the terminal. Years ago, I wrote a guide how to sync an AK100, which required changing the format of playlists. If you know what you are doing, you can put an SD card in your computer and use an exported iTunes M3U playlist in rsync to copy the files in it with one command. More or less, it's steps 1-4 in that guide. Other than that, I think Syncmate will sync files. I haven't tried it for a while, so I'll give it a go to see if it works.

    Unless you're using it as a USB DAC I'd just not connect it to the DELL. Ground isolation issues come through as a low hum. This is one for FiiO to figure out I think.

    I basically tell people, if you don't know what it does, you don't need to know. I went through some of them in my video review, but are there particular options you are wondering about?

    Sandisk Extreme.
     
  15. gLer
    Pin this!
     
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