[KPzypher]

that's literally due to stock. Roland is out of stock, less supply than demand currently due to the hype. I received my La Hire literally 3 days after checked out. But... returned due to fearless fake graph. Kinda bumped still!

edit: Penon service is top notch so far

Well maybe they shouldn't display 'in stock' on their website if that's what's causing the delay.

 

[twiceboss]

Well, you know there is a seller on Ali who has a story with head-fi and eventually he and his products are banned from being reviewed or discussed here so I am not going to mention any names but since I am probably the first one who ordered these IEM and that they have 4 EST drivers I decided it would be okay to review them shortly here or in chinese discovery thread. I might get a chance to listen to some IEMs of Paladin series in Moscow retail shop so I might even write a direct comparison.

Hey please mention me or dm me soon whenever you got them on hands! Im pretty looking forward but not sure with that massive bass since im really a mids and highs head. (not sibilant highs for sure)

 

[twiceboss]

Well maybe they shouldn't display 'in stock' on their website if that's what's causing the delay.

I think Penon clearly states the 1-2weeks for stock for Roland. Not for La Hire and Lancelot.

 

[KPzypher]

I think Penon clearly states the 1-2weeks for stock for Roland. Not for La Hire and Lancelot.

Well then that goes back to my original post. That their service is slower. You're the one that mentioned the problem is due to stock. Anyways, doesn't really matter. If you've experienced stellar services in the past, good for you. I'm just simply stating my experience.

 

[Owludio]

**** specifically boasts that vocals done by ESTs, BTW. I'm tempted but it has vented design. Also, it seems like floodgates are open with ESTs. Will be seeing a lot of them next year

 

[Owludio]

To Fearless Audio: Please make pure DD-Electrostat hybrid! With Roland tuning and EST vocals, it would be a nuclear bomb on IEM market!

 

[mr.karmalicious]

To Fearless Audio: Please make pure DD-Electrostat hybrid! With Roland tuning and EST vocals, it would be a nuclear bomb on IEM market!

The Sonion ESTs—the only kind available for purchase and implementation in IEMs, as far as I'm aware—work from 7k upward, so I don't think that this will work. (A high-pitched female scream tops out at around 3k; highest singing voices at less than 1.5, I believe.)

 

[Owludio]

The Sonion ESTs—the only kind available for purchase and implementation in IEMs, as far as I'm aware—work from 7k upward, so I don't think that this will work. (A high-pitched female scream tops out at around 3k; highest singing voices at less than 1.5, I believe.)

Thanks a lot! Happy to see u here coming to the rescue with some good infoBut that means that the most advanced hybrid is going to be IMR Rah with DD, Planar, Piezo... unless that glorious DD driver that seems to be 6 or 7 mm micro driver (maybe even beryllium?) that utilized in Roland should be capable of going to 10K with ease. In Sony N3ap vocals done by DD entirely (it sounds like) Like I said earlier, BA are a weakens of Roland IMHO
Edit: If not Fearless, maybe EE will...

 

[twiceboss]

Thanks a lot! Happy to see u here coming to the rescue with some good infoBut that means that the most advanced hybrid is going to be IMR Rah with DD, Planar, Piezo... unless that glorious DD driver that seems to be 6 or 7 mm micro driver (maybe even beryllium?) that utilized in Roland should be capable of going to 10K with ease. In Sony N3ap vocals done by DD entirely (it sounds like) Like I said earlier, BA are a weakens of Roland IMHO
Edit: If not Fearless, maybe EE will...

DD+Planar+Est(i mean real EST, not eletret)
Wonder how to drive them and how to tune them LOL

 

[Owludio]

DD+Planar+Est(i mean real EST, not eletret)
Wonder how to drive them and how to tune them LOL

I share your concern, as IMR R1z was anything but coherent well...for Rah. Still, next year we may see new gen EST drivers, besides, Electrete is fine if used only for treble.

 

[cr3ativ3]

DD+Planar+Est(i mean real EST, not eletret)
Wonder how to drive them and how to tune them LOL

Will be the “est” fearless and others uses .. I guess

 

[twiceboss]

i actually not really sure why they use the same word EST. kinda misleading. It's literally different tech

 

[Owludio]

Noble Khan using Piezo ceramic, I heard/read has very airy presentation. 2 competing techs..
As for Electro-Static Transducer, - tech is mainly the same, ultra thin diaphragm moved by ES force, just less force for Electrete.

 

[warriorpoet]

Noble Khan using Piezo ceramic, I heard/read has very airy presentation. 2 competing techs..
As for Electro-Static Transducer, - tech is mainly the same, ultra thin diaphragm moved by ES force, just less force for Electrete.

Electret is a charged diaphragm, Electro gets its power externally. It's not night and day, but it is a difference that impacts performance. Same underlying macro-tech.

 

[warriorpoet]

For those interested, here's the product page: https://www.sonion.com/electrostatic-tweeter/