[GiullianSN]

Actually the mine are CIEM. that's why the question. never had it before, even with my IER-Z1r with a huge DD.

 

[GiullianSN]

The Driver Flex is more prone to Silicone Tips than Foam, Regardless From what I was told by Empire Ears they extend lifetime warranty on any drivers that are damaged due to driver flex.

Rest assured they got you covered

Good to know, thanks. Do they include Mind and patience damage on their warranty policy.

 

[CANiSLAYu]

I’d say my LX universals are like a 6.5. I can minimize it if I’m very deliberate when I insert them. If I pull my ear up and back, insert carefully, then slowly let go of my ear, I can eliminate it in most cases. Readjusting though or yawning can make it flex, as will less deliberate insertion.

 

[GiullianSN]

Quantifying here would be like
Left = 8
Right = 3

Yawning is definitely flexing. (and I yawn a lot )

 

[Vitaly2017]

Maybe try comparing the seal lvl of left and right ears? See if that has play a role in the flex?

I personally never experienced a flex in driver even the uni lx I tried had no flex and plugged and removed it many times while auditioning...

Did you asked ee about it?

 

[Owludio]

let's go...general question to Legend X owners.

Do you have any Driver Flex on your IEMs? If so on a scale from 0-10 how much do you have? (moving your mouth, inserting, removing...)

LX: Pretty much every time I set or adjust it, both sides. I hear distinct 2 clicks for each W9 and then 1-2 second later softer clicks when diaphragm comes back. It does not sound cringe-worthy terrible. Xelento was worse. (Sony ier-z1r had none as well as other Sony iems).
So, don't know how to quantify it. Annoying on the scale of about 4 on LX. Basshead iem ASG2 has none. Anyone had ever sound affected by it?

 

[Vitaly2017]

The thread have gone the wrong pathe lol.

Stop the flexing poping stories I wana hear impressions on valkyries ! Please )

 

[GiullianSN]

The thread have gone the wrong pathe lol.

Stop the flexing poping stories I wana hear impressions on valkyries ! Please )

lol...priorities mate, priorities!

Want to know the impressions on it too. well tuned tribrid can do miracles.

 

[choisan]

Just received valky, it's my wife's birthday gift.
She is listening with N8 black brass, was specially bought to pair with.

 

[choisan]

My wife compared her fitear 335dw original cable 4.4mm termination side by side with her valky to the cayin N8 black brass, playing Madonna's hung up (has more drum playing).
Valky vocal more forward, bass (drum) more solid and holographic. Missing extended width than Zeus.
I compared my Zeus XRA (which is detail and smooth) with Valky. My initial impression is vocal and bass are balance to each other. Valky has more stand out bass and depth.
Recalling my impression on Lx when it was initially launched in HK, I did recall i didn't prefer Phantom. Yes, Valky's bass is less spongy than Lx but more punchy than my Zeus XRA in matter.
I want to run in more in the next few days, and will try the Valky with effect audio janus basso and crystal cable dream duet later on.
I am happy from my first impression. To be honest, I tried in the av show in hk 2 weeks ago with my Sony wm1a, Sony really needs to turn up a hell of a lot to drive the Valky.
From my memory, Wraith was much more easy to drive, but the treble was a little more high pitch than Valky
I am relief after putting it on my n8bb now.
Sorry for my amateur comments

 

[mr.karmalicious]

No need to apologize—thanks for the impressions!

I do want to swing back to driver flex real quick—if you have sound tubes leading out from dynamic drivers (like the LX does), aren't you guaranteed to get some flex if you move the IEM more than a certain amount while maintaining a seal? Of course you wouldn't get it with foam, as mentioned, as the seal is only complete once the foam expands and fits the ears. But with silicone or customs, it's unlikely that you only achieve a seal at the final insertion depth, so you're going to get flex unless you purposefully (e.g.) pull your ear to prevent a seal from forming until you let go. This seems true to me regardless of venting, or at least any venting level that you might reasonably find in an IEM. Am I wrong somewhere?

 

[Owludio]

No need to apologize—thanks for the impressions!

I do want to swing back to driver flex real quick—if you have sound tubes leading out from dynamic drivers (like the LX does), aren't you guaranteed to get some flex if you move the IEM more than a certain amount while maintaining a seal? Of course you wouldn't get it with foam, as mentioned, as the seal is only complete once the foam expands and fits the ears. But with silicone or customs, it's unlikely that you only achieve a seal at the final insertion depth, so you're going to get flex unless you purposefully (e.g.) pull your ear to prevent a seal from forming until you let go. This seems true to me regardless of venting, or at least any venting level that you might reasonably find in an IEM. Am I wrong somewhere?

If you are wrong, that would make at least two of us. I compared flex on the lx with IMR Zenith which sounds really loud, but with tuning nozzle that has hole in it - no flex. Also, I once took apart Sony with 16mm single DD and found that diaphragm niche has multiple tiny columns all around limiting excursion. That's why Sonny's have no flex sound ever!

 

[bflat]

If driver flex bothers you, then you can forget about owning Stax electrostats. Of course Stax owners call it "farts".

 

[GiullianSN]

If driver flex bothers you, then you can forget about owning Stax electrostats. Of course Stax owners call it "farts".

Actually I didn't like Stax. (will get a lot of hates now)

 

[SBranson]

Actually I didn't like Stax. (will get a lot of hates now)

Now that's something you don't hear every day..
The 007/717 was the best I've ever heard...