DIY Cable Questions and Comments Thread
Jun 9, 2016 at 11:33 AM Post #5,296 of 10,535
Ok so I am about to attempt to make my first cable for a little project I am working on.
 
It is a 3.5mm stereo to two 3.5mm mono cable.
 
I have the following parts
http://store.haveinc.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=51647&SEName=neutrik-35mm-trs-plug-gold
http://store.haveinc.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=49574&SEName=canare-f11-ts-mini-35mm-audio-plug
http://store.haveinc.com/p-49694-canare-l4e6s-starquad-microphone-cable-21awg-braid-shield-cut.aspx
 
Did I get the right cable? I bought based on a recommendation I saw in here but I was thought that shield was not preferred.
 
Also what is a good source for jacketing material? Also any ideas suggestions for smaller 3.5mm Mono connectors? These Canare F11s are huge!
 
Jun 9, 2016 at 1:29 PM Post #5,297 of 10,535
  Ok so I am about to attempt to make my first cable for a little project I am working on.
 
It is a 3.5mm stereo to two 3.5mm mono cable.
 
I have the following parts
http://store.haveinc.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=51647&SEName=neutrik-35mm-trs-plug-gold
http://store.haveinc.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=49574&SEName=canare-f11-ts-mini-35mm-audio-plug
http://store.haveinc.com/p-49694-canare-l4e6s-starquad-microphone-cable-21awg-braid-shield-cut.aspx
 
Did I get the right cable? I bought based on a recommendation I saw in here but I was thought that shield was not preferred.
 
Also what is a good source for jacketing material? Also any ideas suggestions for smaller 3.5mm Mono connectors? These Canare F11s are huge!

 
When I made my 3.5 mono to 3.5 mono I used the NYS226BG Neutrik Mono connectors. I think I bought them from eBay. I ended up using mogami 2535 wire. I striped the outer shielding off and ended up braiding the cable. If you want jacketing, I usually use Techflex clean cut braided sleeving.
 
Jun 10, 2016 at 10:06 AM Post #5,298 of 10,535
Hazaaa!!! I made my own cable out of the Fostex th-x00 left overs. Actually have enough to make two. Pictures aren't so pretty but overall decent enough for my first.
 

 
 

 
 
I'm having a hard time finding a good price on connectors. The ones i got off of Ebay were cheap in price, but they are, well cheap in quality. At the same time i dont want to pay $10.00 for 3.5mm male end. Is there a happy medium store someone can suggest? Something that's quality but not $10 a pop? I'm looking to buy in bulk.
 
EDIT-
Just looked at the posts ahead of mine and they indirectly answer this. Thanks.
 
Jun 10, 2016 at 1:19 PM Post #5,299 of 10,535
Hazaaa!!! I made my own cable out of the Fostex th-x00 left overs. Actually have enough to make two. Pictures aren't so pretty but overall decent enough for my first.









I'm having a hard time finding a good price on connectors. The ones i got off of Ebay were cheap in price, but they are, well cheap in quality. At the same time i dont want to pay $10.00 for 3.5mm male end. Is there a happy medium store someone can suggest? Something that's quality but not $10 a pop? I'm looking to buy in bulk.

EDIT-
Just looked at the posts ahead of mine and they indirectly answer this. Thanks.


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Jun 10, 2016 at 2:24 PM Post #5,301 of 10,535
   
When I made my 3.5 mono to 3.5 mono I used the NYS226BG Neutrik Mono connectors. I think I bought them from eBay. I ended up using mogami 2535 wire. I striped the outer shielding off and ended up braiding the cable. If you want jacketing, I usually use Techflex clean cut braided sleeving.

Cool thanks. Grabbed some Neutrik Mono connectors and Techflex clean cut to try out.
 
Anyone know where to find a 30 pin connector to make an iPod LOD from?
 
Jun 10, 2016 at 2:28 PM Post #5,302 of 10,535
 
Also what is a good source for jacketing material? 

 
 
 
I'm having a hard time finding a good price on connectors. The ones i got off of Ebay were cheap in price, but they are, well cheap in quality. At the same time i dont want to pay $10.00 for 3.5mm male end. Is there a happy medium store someone can suggest? Something that's quality but not $10 a pop? I'm looking to buy in bulk.
 

 
   
Anyone know where to find a 30 pin connector to make an iPod LOD from?

 
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Jun 11, 2016 at 8:48 AM Post #5,303 of 10,535
If youre half drunk and it's your first time using wire and solder don't attempt a balanced 2.5 trrs
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It survived, but isn't pretty. I wonder how it's going to sound.
 
Jun 11, 2016 at 9:24 AM Post #5,304 of 10,535
  If youre half drunk and it's your first time using wire and solder don't attempt a balanced 2.5 trrs
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It survived, but isn't pretty. I wonder how it's going to sound.

 
Just did one just tonight and I had an easy 2.5mm TRRS compared to other designs but still it was a PITA. And I did a horrible job at it too. But it works :-
 

 

 

 
Jun 11, 2016 at 11:48 AM Post #5,305 of 10,535
What connector is that? I couldn't get my phone camera to focus on my connection sadly.
With the eidolic 2.5 trrs i ended up over heating the 'stem' for the solder to stick and melted the plastic spacing rings in between each section. All 4 wires are VERY close to touching since there is so little room inside the casing. Fingers crossed.
 
Jun 11, 2016 at 12:38 PM Post #5,306 of 10,535
  What connector is that? I couldn't get my phone camera to focus on my connection sadly.
With the eidolic 2.5 trrs i ended up over heating the 'stem' for the solder to stick and melted the plastic spacing rings in between each section. All 4 wires are VERY close to touching since there is so little room inside the casing. Fingers crossed.

 
It's a Nakamura NP-254. Not certain if it's sold overseas. I covered it -very- briefly in a show report 2 years back.
 
Jun 11, 2016 at 5:07 PM Post #5,307 of 10,535
With the eidolic 2.5 trrs i ended up over heating the 'stem' for the solder to stick and melted the plastic spacing rings in between each section. All 4 wires are VERY close to touching since there is so little room inside the casing. Fingers crossed.


I did that with a 2.5mm TRS. It melted so bad the channels shorted together and I had to buy a new connector.

The trick I learned for all cable-making, and soldering in general: use flux on the wire and the connector separately. Then, with great care, add solder to both, again, separately. It's called tinning. Tin the wire and the connector. Then, use Helping Hands to position the wire perfectly, making flush contact with the already-soldered connector. All you have to do then is very briefly lay the tip of the iron on the wire, and the solder on the wire and connector will bond.

The concept is preparation and positioning. If you get that right, it won't take more than 3 seconds of heat to make a solid connection. The rings won't get hot enough to melt.
 
Jun 12, 2016 at 11:38 PM Post #5,309 of 10,535
I am the mad cable scientist.
In my very first attempt at using a soldering iron, twisting and braiding cable this atrocity was born.





That Nakamura NP-254 looks very convenient.



Well, looks isn't everything, especially in audio. My cables look beautiful. But they cut out. I think it's the connectors I used. Some internal looseness. Idk. As long as they work :)
 
Jun 16, 2016 at 5:34 PM Post #5,310 of 10,535
So I want to make a couple rca cables, and I've seen that there are several ways to make them.  I know braided cables typically have a lot more flexibility, but Is there any other benefits to using one method over another? 
 
1) Using instrument cable, soldering the copper to the conductor, and the shielding to the ground.
2) Using 2 twisted wires without a shield, 1 of the wires to the conductor and the other to the ground.
3) Using 2 twisted wires with shield, both go to conductor and shield goes to ground.  (I've seen people also cut back the shield all the way and use above method)
4)Using 4 braided wires, twist the 2 pairs at the end and solder like a 2 wire cable.
 
Also, where do you get your higher awg wires? I know if you buy Canare star quad cable, you get a great deal. But what if I want a higher awg clear cable, or black cable, ect. example
 
One final thing.  What paracord sizes do you recommend? For larger awg individual wires, I've seen 275 paracord, but what about a thick instrument cable, such as Mogami, which has a 6mm outer dia. jacket.
 

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