[Replicant187]

speaking of prices...newly released ocharaku donguri dual costs around 500usd
new flat4 costs around 800usd (but you can find used for around 500usd)

and i have yet to find iem with same clarity, vast soundstage and timbral rendition as ocharaku...

Ocharaku is great. one of the best regardless of the price.

 

[jmills8]

Ocharaku is great. one of the best regardless of the price.

great for ? Bass ?

 

[Mimouille]

Ocharaku is great. one of the best regardless of the price.

I love the Ocharakus, used to own the Kaede, but they have no isolation at all, not very ergonomic due to the absence of neck cinch, and quite fragile cable wise. Sound is indeed very good.

 

[kadamian]

I love the Ocharakus, used to own the Kaede, but they have no isolation at all, not very ergonomic due to the absence of neck cinch, and quite fragile cable wise. Sound is indeed very good.

no isolation means vast soundstage with lots of "air" which is imo much better sound-wise then "vacuum" feeling of most iems/ciems

 

[Mimouille]

no isolation means vast soundstage with lots of "air" which is imo much better sound-wise then "vacuum" feeling of most iems/ciems

It is a matter of balance between the two and priorities. I like isolation.

 

[Replicant187]

I love the Ocharakus, used to own the Kaede, but they have no isolation at all, not very ergonomic due to the absence of neck cinch, and quite fragile cable wise. Sound is indeed very good.

thier recent models have neck cinch

 

[Mimouille]

thier recent models have neck cinch

Good to know...I might try. But still no isolation 

 

[audionewbi]

thier recent models have neck cinch

They all have.

 

[Mimouille]

They all have.

Not the original Sui and Kaede. We were on an OT on Ocharaku...

 

[audionewbi]

  Not the original Sui and Kaede. We were on an OT on Ocharaku...

i've should have read the entire post, I thought we were talking about dita products.....

 

[kadamian]

i've should have read the entire post, I thought we were talking about dita products.....

the comparison with ocharaku and similar niche DD earphones are imminent, especially regarding the price of the dream

 

[audionewbi]

I love my kaede however it is way too fragile for my daily use. Dita IEM for me has passed the durability test.
While both are niche the reason for it varies.

 

[kadamian]

I love my kaede however it is way too fragile for my daily use. Dita IEM for me has passed the durability test.
While both are niche the reason for it varies.

kaede never meant to be worn outside

i haven't listened to any of the ditas but i remember you placing kaede above the truth

 

[audionewbi]

kaede never meant to be worn outside

i haven't listened to any of the ditas but i remember you placing kaede above the truth

For orchestral and any music with wise soundstage and deep bass kaede has remains my top choice, it is just a waste soundstage but Dita perhaps is more suitable for pop and jazz as kaede sound fatigues rather too quick.

 

[kadamian]

For orchestral and any music with wise soundstage and deep bass kaede has remains my top choice, it is just a waste soundstage but Dita perhaps is more suitable for pop and jazz as kaede sound fatigues rather too quick.

pop/rock often have poor/mediocre mastering which becomes evident with kaede

right now the main contenders formed to potentially overthrow kaede from the top are campfire vega and dita dream. both are more expensive than kaede while the sound quality is still a mystery