Jmills, jmills, hawaii, hawaii, all I have to say is omg, how can something so small sound this ffggfgfggg good, I have it on with my xb 90,at 52, remember I just got most of my things, so nothing is burned in, but I haven't even used the bbe equalizer, the sound is so smooth, my god its the size of a large sansa clip, it's just a as beautiful as my x5, warm smooth with authority, I haven't tried the ue trifi10, or my sony xba a3, or my macawgt100s, or even my sony xb50 which was my starting point to bass in earbuds, because my v moda.crossfade.lp with my yamaha tuner headphone jack was great then I got the fiio desktop amp with the docking dac, the andes or 17k, and for the gym the 12e. So far everything Hawaii or you guys have recomend ed is awesome, I might want another player, I have the xduoox3 coming in,I don't need wifi because with my note cell and my two note tablets they are awesome the 10 inch and 8, they come with wolfson ampdac, they never told anyone until I read on it, but back to the d, I think I might stick to the cowon, pretty amazing sound now let's play with the eq, jajajjjajajajjajjaj