[skoog5600]

 
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It has a lot of potential, but as it is right now it isn't complete. Perhaps with future firmware upgrades it will mature or even with Rock box, but as it is right now I cannot recommend it. I think a lot of the problems stem from the Android OS... Because of the Android OS it is buggy and has horrible battery life. However the screen is gorgeous, and the sound is as expected. For me, the real deal killer was the battery life though... If the D3 had 50+hrs of battery life I might have a D3 instead of a J3... I have experience with android and am sure I would have been able to fix the bugs fairly quickly with the help of some modding, rockbox, or some other method. 
 

Thanks for your thoughts on the D3. One other thing ... I really want to have one rig for audio and video. I am commute on the train in Tokyo and have used two rigs in the past - one for audio and one for video. Do you think the J3 would suffice. I do like the larger screen on the D3 and the video and of course audio quality. I am a bit torn to wait on the D3 to fix the issues and drop in price or pull the trigger on a J3.

 

[kyuuketsuki]

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Thanks for your thoughts on the D3. One other thing ... I really want to have one rig for audio and video. I am commute on the train in Tokyo and have used two rigs in the past - one for audio and one for video. Do you think the J3 would suffice. I do like the larger screen on the D3 and the video and of course audio quality. I am a bit torn to wait on the D3 to fix the issues and drop in price or pull the trigger on a J3.

That is a tough one... The screen on the J3 is nice (just not terribly big) and does have a stellar battery so it would do well. But the D3 could be better except for the battery life. I can't speak of the future so I can't say when Rockbox will be done for D3 or if Cowon will fix all the bugs themselves. In the end it depends on how long you are willing to wait. 

 

[dfkt]

Rockbox for Android is already very useful - not fully functional, but it plays audio just fine. I've posted some freshly compiled builds here: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/538735/the-official-rockbox-for-android-registry/30#post_7288393

 

[Griffinhart]

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Am I the only one that uses my music player for music, and doesn't care about movies? Book + Music = enjoyable transit. Hell, I once mixed an audio book with fitting music for my friend so he could "read" a book while listening to his music while driving. I don't think I ever watch movies or videos on the go except for the occasional youtube or blip.tv. I just don't like watching videos on anything less than a 15in screen, and even that is pushing it

Nope, same here. My portable entertainment consists of my J3 for music and a PSP for gaming. I don't watch television in the first place, and when I do watch video, it's always on my home rig (which, as mentioned before, includes a pair of 24" widescreen monitors).
 
-- Griffinhart

 

[Redmetal1897]

Is any work being done on bringing rockbox to J3? Those who have used rockbox on other platforms, is it worth bringing rockbox to the J3 or is it good enough as is?

 

[rawrster]

IMO I don't see the need for rockbox on the J3. I find the UI to be quite good and better than rockbox and there's a bunch of extras where even if there was a rockbox option I wouldn't bother.

 

[kyuuketsuki]

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IMO I don't see the need for rockbox on the J3. I find the UI to be quite good and better than rockbox and there's a bunch of extras where even if there was a rockbox option I wouldn't bother.

+1 I agree. J3 does not need rockbox at all. J3 is great as it is.

 

[Golden Monkey]

Rockbox is good for poorly implemented UI's, but the J3's is nice.  That said, some of the community-designed UI's, like Kizune's efforts are awesome alternatives though.  I use the standard UI with Aero Music for the music player, as I like the added functionality without having to leave the music player itself. 

 

[Redmetal1897]

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Rockbox is good for poorly implemented UI's, but the J3's is nice.  That said, some of the community-designed UI's, like Kizune's efforts are awesome alternatives though.  I use the standard UI with Aero Music for the music player, as I like the added functionality without having to leave the music player itself. 

Agree 

 I use Chakra and Aero Music player as well, the playlist feature is awesome. 
 
Regarding rockbox, how about the EQ? Rockbox has a full parametric eq right? If rockbox were installed would that mean we would lose out on effects like BBE?

 

[zotjen]

I just got my J3 today. Is there anything important on the disc that comes with it or is everything I need available on the Cowon website (especially updated version)?

 

[Dobrescu George]

i've got no disc with my j3....
and not really asked why, it just works fine, and i've downloaded the jetaudio and upgrades from cowon site....
 
may i ask what is on the disk?...
 
i mean, at first, i was a little scared that i've got an refurbished unit because of the absence of this disc, and mine has already installed version 1.23 (buyied from exportprive)....
 
and for my ideea with recomending an player with amoled, it is because amoled is so much cool, just for ones, the j3's screen may look small.... that is all....
for me is ok, and the best for now.....
 
super amoled is even better than amoled....

 

[Golden Monkey]

You're not missing anything...just JetAudio and out of date drivers and firmware.  It's all there on the site.

 

[kyuuketsuki]

Yes, rockbox does have a full parametric eq... BUT! It is not hardware based which the J3 already has... it is software based. And from what I have heard hardware based EQ trumps software based no matter what. I'm not sure if you would lose out on effects like BBE, I can only assume you would, but I have never rockboxed a Cowon... I only rockboxed my 5g iPod. Good choice that was, too bad it died so soon... . 
 
If I am incorrect with what I said, please someone let me know, because I am honestly not fully sure.
 
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Agree 

 I use Chakra and Aero Music player as well, the playlist feature is awesome. 
 
Regarding rockbox, how about the EQ? Rockbox has a full parametric eq right? If rockbox were installed would that mean we would lose out on effects like BBE?

 

[Sorensiim]

I hack, tweak and mod everything from my pc's to my cell phone and my camera equipment. But the J3? I haven't even installed a custom UCI. My only adjustment is setting up a custom EQ configuration that makes my Atrio M5s really shine. Detailed, forward mids AND punchy bass. The only reason I'd ever sell the J3 would be if somebody offered to trade a 32gb version for my 16gb version 

 
If Cowon ever makes a player with the same UI, sound quality and EQ as the J3, but with a harddrive and optical out, I might consider it for use with my iBasso D12, but I'd keep the J3 for portability. This thing with a proper set of IEMs == Audio bliss in your pocket, I carry mine at all times.

 

[Confispect]

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