Corda Symphony info and impressions
Dec 26, 2008 at 11:28 AM Post #256 of 428
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Originally Posted by milkweg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I know, I'm just playing devil's advocate.
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Still, it has to be said, I look at the internals of some of those budget portable amps selling for $100+ and all I see is maybe five bucks worth of parts inside them.
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Looks like you know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
 
Dec 26, 2008 at 12:09 PM Post #257 of 428
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Originally Posted by milkweg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I know, I'm just playing devil's advocate.
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Still, it has to be said, I look at the internals of some of those budget portable amps selling for $100+ and all I see is maybe five bucks worth of parts inside them.
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Tells more about you than about the amp in question.....
 
Dec 26, 2008 at 8:09 PM Post #258 of 428
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Originally Posted by Jan Meier /img/forum/go_quote.gif
"Bunch of resistors, capacitors, printboard circuits, PSU and a few dollars worth of wire is all there is in any amp."

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????

And this is just the top side of the PCB. Most of the analog amplification circuitry is at the bottom side!!!!

Jan



Nice clean layout. I'll give you $200.00 USD for it.
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Dec 26, 2008 at 8:12 PM Post #259 of 428
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Originally Posted by jirams /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Looks like you know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.


<existentialist mode on>

No material object has any value when you look at the big picture.
 
Dec 26, 2008 at 9:05 PM Post #260 of 428
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Originally Posted by milkweg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Bunch of resistors, capacitors, printboard circuits, PSU and a few dollars worth of wire is all there is in any amp. Nothing even approaching $2000.00 worth of kit. Probably the most expensive part to the manufacturer is the fancy over sized case with their fancy important sounding logo on it.


Oh Yeah, I suppose you just go to the local electronic store, buy them and then throw all of them inside a case (or maybe a box) and you have a nice sounding amp. That's how it works, right?
I suppose there aren't any extra cost for research and development, ensambling, the knowldege involved in the production, rights, taxes... nothing, right?
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Dec 27, 2008 at 7:14 AM Post #263 of 428
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Originally Posted by milkweg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Oh, well, lack of humor is thick around here.


Quite honestly, I really do not see the humour in your posts. Rather it is more like a mean, ill-willed attack on what I see as a decent, good-value product.

If this is not your intention, it would be good to the community if you can clarify.

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Dec 27, 2008 at 10:30 AM Post #265 of 428
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Originally Posted by fkclo /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Quite honestly, I really do not see the humour in your posts. Rather it is more like a mean, ill-willed attack on what I see as a decent, good-value product.

If this is not your intention, it would be good to the community if you can clarify.

F. Lo



Well, the truth is in the jest, I admit. My Onkyo receiver has far more complex circuitry and parts than any headphone amp and is just as well put together, built in a similar Chinese factory by laborers getting paid next to nothing. Now explain to me how you can possibly perceive a $1700.00 headphone amp that ouputs just mw to have even close to the same value as my Onkyo receiver that cost $400.00 and has 7 channels of 75w output, does a multitude of DSPs and even has an AM/FM tuner . The plain fact is that it doesn't. There's your explanation and is the only one I am posting.
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p.s. I was not attacking any one product specifically. My comments were a friendly observation on overpriced audio gear in general.
 
Dec 27, 2008 at 10:43 AM Post #266 of 428
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Originally Posted by woof07 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Heh. Let us all stop feeding the troll, myself included.


I actually think he's not even trolling on purpose, but out of sheer ignorance.
Sad.
 
Dec 27, 2008 at 10:46 AM Post #267 of 428
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Originally Posted by milkweg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well, the truth is in the jest, I admit. My Onkyo receiver has far more complex circuitry and parts than any headphone amp and is just as well put together, built in a similar Chinese factory by laborers getting paid next to nothing. Now explain to me how you can possibly perceive a $1700.00 headphone amp that ouputs just mw to have even close to the same value as my Onkyo receiver that cost $400.00 and has 7 channels of 75w output, does a multitude of DSPs and even has an AM/FM tuner . The plain fact is that it doesn't. There's your explanation and is the only one I am posting.
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p.s. I was not attacking any one product specifically. My comments were a friendly observation on overpriced audio gear in general.



Don't try to dress your bitter and twisted comments up with the virtues of humour or friendship.
 
Dec 27, 2008 at 6:52 PM Post #269 of 428
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Originally Posted by milkweg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well, the truth is in the jest, I admit. My Onkyo receiver has far more complex circuitry and parts than any headphone amp and is just as well put together, built in a similar Chinese factory by laborers getting paid next to nothing. Now explain to me how you can possibly perceive a $1700.00 headphone amp that ouputs just mw to have even close to the same value as my Onkyo receiver that cost $400.00 and has 7 channels of 75w output, does a multitude of DSPs and even has an AM/FM tuner . The plain fact is that it doesn't. There's your explanation and is the only one I am posting.
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p.s. I was not attacking any one product specifically. My comments were a friendly observation on overpriced audio gear in general.



The specific needs to drive a variety of headphones ranging from 25-600 ohms exceptionally well are not addressed in the Onkyo, which is primarily intended to drive speakers with different requirements and properties - and adapting the Onkyo to also drive headphones is not the main focus of Onkyo's development team.

Quality of internal components will also play a role, as does the actual circuit layout - we know the sound changes with the slightest change in layout or components, so don't expect two similarly "busy looking" circuit designs to sound the same.
 
Dec 27, 2008 at 8:20 PM Post #270 of 428
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Originally Posted by milkweg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well, the truth is in the jest, I admit. My Onkyo receiver has far more complex circuitry and parts than any headphone amp and is just as well put together, built in a similar Chinese factory by laborers getting paid next to nothing. Now explain to me how you can possibly perceive a $1700.00 headphone amp that ouputs just mw to have even close to the same value as my Onkyo receiver that cost $400.00 and has 7 channels of 75w output, does a multitude of DSPs and even has an AM/FM tuner . The plain fact is that it doesn't. There's your explanation and is the only one I am posting.
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Massive economies of scale in every aspect. Ask Jan who else works on design, R&D, and prototyping of his stuff. Ask Jan how many products he has to sell in order to support himself for a year. Onkyo is a large corporation in which your receiver is just one product, and they make tons of them.
 

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