[Pastapipo]

  ZuperDAC + Havi B3 Pro 1 = 

 

 
 
Specially this song:
 

 
Thanks! Great song!
 
Returning the favour:
 

 

[_gl]

Do we know what the sound signature of the Master 4 is supposed to be?

 

[Lurk650]

DD good for produce good Bass
BA better for clarity of details, such as mids or treble.

Single DD usually can't last you more than a 6 mths IMO.

Multi-BAs good but not exactly for fun

Single DD won't last more than 6 months? What does that even mean...

 

[kimD]

Single DD won't last more than 6 months? What does that even mean...

Sounds to me won't last me forever, if you had BA+DD hybrid IEM beside to you

 

[Bob A (SD)]

  Do we know what the sound signature of the Master 4 is supposed to be?

Trinity "house sound" but to quote Bob@Trinity, Delta VII on Steroids. 

 
Keep in mind too that these come with 5 tuning filters in both short and long lengths for insertion depth fitment.  Three 2-pin cables, and a whole bunch of different tips including Spin-Fits and Trinity Comply style foamies. (See the list of all the goodies here:  https://trinityaudioengineering.com/collections/phantom-series/products/phantom-master-4)
 
I really love my Trinity Techne and it's 3 tuning filters.  Friends who have them along with Delta v1 and 2 and now the recent push-pull Phantom Sabre are saying each has been a step up and anticipate the Master 4 & 6 to be a further progression.
 
I've pre-ordered the Master 4.

 

[HiFiChris]

 

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 I asked Zorloo for a full spec sheet and they emailed me a PDF with the relevant information, and it was there it was listed at 4 ohms. I emailed them to clarify it.

Here is what was in the PDF:




ZuperDAC Portable HiFi USB-DAC Specification

Hardware Specification



AudioDAC









ES9018K2M










Headphone Amplifier









ES9601










Connector









USB Type A Male










Color









Gold, Silver










Power Consumption









~70mA










Certification









CE, FCC, RoHS










UPC-A









841295100064 (Gold) 841295100071 (Silver)

Audio Specification



USB Audio









Class 2










Maximum Sampling Frequency









192kHz










Maximum Bit Depth









24-bit










Output Power (max)









25mW + 25mW










SNR









115dB










THD









0.003%










Channel Separation (L/R)









60dB










Output Impedance









4 ohms

Dimension border-bottom-width:.48001pt;border-left-color:rgb(0%,0%,0%);border-left-width:.48pt;border-right-color:rgb(0%,0%,0%);border-right-width:.48pt;border-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(0%,0%,0%);border-top-width:.48pt;">


Length (mm)









46







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Width (mm)









23






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Height (mm)









10






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Weight (g)









16






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Useful Information



Zorloo Home Page









http://www.zorloo.com/



ZuperDAC Landing Page









http://www.zorloo.com/zuperdac



Windows Driver Download









http://www.zorloo.com/download



Windows Driver Installation Tutorial









http://www.zorloo.com/tutorial



General FAQ









http://www.zorloo.com/faq



Where to buy









http://www.zorloo.com/shop



Contact us









http://www.zorloo.com/contact

 


I am not even sure how I would go about measuring the output impedance as I don't have the tools for it I would imagine. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction. Is your incoming iem an all BA or hybrid iem?


Nice! Thanks! The lower the better, as far as I'm concerned

I've never done it myself, but maybe someone like @HiFiChris
 can give you some tips? I was going to give it a shot, but then my multimeter broke, so I never got around to actually doing it.. Given the tools I have(/had), I'm not sure how exact I would've been able to measure it, but I was sort of thinking about starting out with trying to measure something where I already knew the OI and see how close I got.. Anyway, I will have to get a new multimeter eventually, I might give it a try when I do.

When I was looking into information about methods I stumbled across threads like http://www.head-fi.org/t/739322/how-do-you-measure-a-headphone-amplifiers-output-impedance

It's a hybrid, 1DD+2BA.



A multimeter along with some adapters as well as resistors would be the most accurate way to calculate the output impedance for sure.
I'm doing it a little differently and measure source devices and amps in RMAA (if you use the search function, you should be able to find my thread where I have posted a tutorial on how to measure, then the output impedance can be approximated using a formula - I'm posting this from my tablet computer, so cannot paste the link at the momemt). It is less accurate than a measurement with a multimeter and resistors but (depending on the IEMs used for doing the RMAA measurement) precise enough to see whether the souece device has got a really low output impedance around 0 Ohms, 1 Ohm, somewjat above 1 Ohm or clearly above.

 

[MuZo2]

REVIEW: Vivo Xplay 3S + XE800 Mobile audio perfection

The ones on Ali that these guys are buying are real. The fakes don't have the rotating nozzles.

I remember someone showed there were fakes even with metal rotating nozzle.

 

[Lurk650]

Sounds to me won't last me forever, if you had BA+DD hybrid IEM beside to you

Do you mean physically they won't last bc the driver dying or won't last bc you get bored of the sound? Either way thats a bunch of crap lol

 

[kimD]

Do you mean physically they won't last bc the driver dying or won't last bc you get bored of the sound? Either way thats a bunch of crap lol

Due the sounds easily get bored, if you own one and used forever, yes.
Cause you can't get compared to others.
Such as my TFZ S1 already sitting in dry cable now.

Even it passed 6 mths ago is my dream and wishlist.
Just now went to tried again, the sounds no longer impressed me

Either me already has a reference IEM such as banned here Dxxx

 

[Wokei]

Due the sounds easily get bored, if you own one and used forever, yes.
Cause you can't get compared to others.
Such as my TFZ S1 already sitting in dry cable now.

Even it passed 6 mths ago is my dream and wishlist.
Just now went to tried again, the sounds no longer impressed me

Either me already has a reference IEM such as banned here Dxxx

 
from yr web page on TFZ S1 ( copy n paste )
 

THE ACTUAL S1 LOOK

S1 has a great soundstage,
Very smooth Mids, quite close to BA driver.
Pretty sweet treble, no harsh, fatiguing orpiercing an issue.
S1 Bass has solid energy and punchy bass extension like QT5/xx. 
S1 has huge bass and speedy of bass.
For me S1 is a great IEM and value for money, very huge soundstage and sweety balanced sound signature to enjoyable such as Rock, R&B, Female vocals or even Jazz as well.

MY SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION Fitting really comfortable and pretty great sealed, cause of the design are 45 degree of the nozzle for better insertion to your ear canal, there is no sound leaked an issue. My recommended for comply T200, will be perfectly fits. Very light weight shells, there is no such uncomforted it as longer period, cause all the rounded shaped, i am loving it so much. S1 has the truth balanced sounds signature to enjoyable more for any songs as what you listening. The downside be the cable come non memory wire and the rest was perfectly. The overall were highly recommended ​

​ Minor comparison an over the rest. IF you asked me about the xxxx D2 vs S1, they are quite similar Bass boot for both has a such good hi-definition of sounds quality and clarity of detailed. IF you talk about the Treble wise, i will prefer an over S1   Now it no longer impressed you ? Mmmmmm

 

[kimD]

from yr web page on TFZ S1 ( copy n paste )

THE ACTUAL S1 LOOK

S1 has a great soundstage,

Very smooth Mids, quite close to BA driver.

Pretty sweet treble, no harsh, fatiguing orpiercing an issue.

S1 Bass has solid energy and punchy bass extension like QT5/D2. 

S1 has huge bass and speedy of bass.

For me S1 is a great IEM and value for money, very huge soundstage and sweety balanced sound signature to enjoyable such as Rock, R&B, Female vocals or even Jazz as well.

MY SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION Fitting really comfortable and pretty great sealed, cause of the design are 45 degree of the nozzle for better insertion to your ear canal, there is no sound leaked an issue. My recommended for comply T200, will be perfectly fits. Very light weight shells, there is no such uncomforted it as longer period, cause all the rounded shaped, i am loving it so much. S1 has the truth balanced sounds signature to enjoyable more for any songs as what you listening. The downside be the cable come non memory wire and the rest was perfectly. The overall were highly recommended ​

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​ Minor comparison an over the rest. IF you asked me about the DQSM D2 vs S1, they are quite similar Bass boot for both has a such good hi-definition of sounds quality and clarity of detailed. IF you talk about the Treble wise, i will prefer an over S1   Now it no longer impressed you ? Mmmmmm

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Yes all the sounds to me grown and growing up day n days..
I hope to stop listening maybe once a day and then back to S1 again, should be much better

 

[audio123]

shozy 0 is amazing

 

[Riisalat]

shozy 0 is amazing

its one of the best single drivers ive heard

 

[AudioDHD]

its one of the best single drivers ive heard

It is the best single DD Ive heard so far.. havnt heard IE800 but have IE80 which has its strenghts and weaknesses. . h34r:

 

[mynamesjeff]

what would be the best iems with an airy treble feel akin to my DT990 pros? Budget <$200