[Slater]

Yes, that's right, it was a mistake, they are Starlines. I will edit it!

It would have been very generous for them to include Spin Fits!

Wait, KB1 includes KZ Starline tips stock?

Pretty cool!

 

[mbwilson111]

Wait, KB1 includes KZ Starline tips stock?

Pretty cool!

Yes plus the other set with the red core.

 

[FastAndClean]

My "bass or go home" settings for Simgot EM1, that thing is crazy hahaha

 

[Slater]

Yes plus the other set with the red core.

Very interesting. Starlines are patented by KZ, so KZ obviously has some level of involvement...

 

[Nimweth]

Yes plus the other set with the red core.

It was the KBEAR Opal and not the F1 which had the Spinfit-like tips, it also came with a set of white wide bore tips! That's where the confusion arose.

 

[Veyska]

It was the KBEAR Opal and not the F1 which had the Spinfit-like tips, it also came with a set of white wide bore tips! That's where the confusion arose.

I don't care if it's supposed to be KB EAR, I totally read that brand name as K-BEAR and it amuses me.

 

[mbwilson111]

I don't care if it's supposed to be KB EAR, I totally read that brand name as K-BEAR and it amuses me.

When speaking about it, I will continue to say K-Bear.

 

[Zerohour88]

Very interesting. Starlines are patented by KZ, so KZ obviously has some level of involvement...

wait, I've always thought the KZ starlines are just a copy of some Audio Technica tips (saw some ATH tips that looks very similar to them). Which made sense since KZ supposedly originated from ATH employees branching out into their own company.

 

[mbwilson111]

wait, I've always thought the KZ starlines are just a copy of some Audio Technica tips (saw some ATH tips that looks very similar to them). Which made sense since KZ supposedly originated from ATH employees branching out into their own company.

The plot thickens...

 

[Zerohour88]

The plot thickens...

haha, even more reminded of the ATH origins as I bring out the KZ ATR (design inspired by the IM series from ATH) for one last session before I butcher it for the shell.

but its suprising to know KZ would bother patenting anything, not to mention tips design, especially in China.

 

[Slater]

wait, I've always thought the KZ starlines are just a copy of some Audio Technica tips (saw some ATH tips that looks very similar to them). Which made sense since KZ supposedly originated from ATH employees branching out into their own company.

I don’t know about that, but somewhere I have a graphic from the KZ marketing dept that claim they patented it.

I’ll see if I can find it.

 

[HAMS]

Kbear f1. So intriguing. Wonder if it can compete with popular single BA like fiio fa1 or even etymotic. From people impressions it seems to sound close to diffuse field target tuning?

 

[requal]

Kbear f1. So intriguing. Wonder if it can compete with popular single BA like fiio fa1 or even etymotic. From people impressions it seems to sound close to diffuse field target tuning?

For me its better option then FA1, F1 is less fatiguing and have thicker sound, lows are also better, but FA1 is changing a lot with SpinFit CP240, without them those arn't too intrestesting earphones, but even with them are still bit fatiguing. ER3XR have less depth and also thinner sound. But now I haven't them, and can't compare 1:1. From what I remember FA1 and Er3xr is more detailed, both are also more mid-forward.
IMO F1 is sufficient to replace them.

 

[Nimweth]

When speaking about it, I will continue to say K-Bear.

KBEAR

 

[Elna]

Hi folks,

I have been using my KZ ZST for some time (bought them just after their release) , and I think I am ready for a new pair of chi-fi IEM...
Even I am not a specialist at all, or even use them intensively, I find they are not really perfect to my ears:
- I find the highs are a bit weird, pearcing, with even some sibilance sometimes
- I also find the mids are a bit too much recessed, and somehow lacks details (even if i found it much more muddy when received them, burn in helped on this point)

So, could you please help me in finding a new pair of IEM (the chi-fi scene is constantly moving, so maybe a bit tough to follow)? I am a bit lost with all these potential gems...

Here are my needs and usage:
I don't use DAPs anymore, and will mostly use them from my phone (Huawei P20pro), so they have to be driveable...
Seems also that I appreciate more mild v-shaped (ZST is my limit in terms of bass, and I am also looking for softer highs).
My budget is rather low. Let's say around 50$, maybe a bit more for something that would give a big improvement, maybe during next AE sales...

Tks for your help