[Bostonears]

Can this be used in conjunction with an external amp?

Sure. Just set the Dragonfly volume to max and it becomes fixed output for external devices. See explanation at http://www.audioquest.com/usb_digital_analog_converter/faqs.

 

[Guidostrunk]

Thanks for the info

Sure. Just set the Dragonfly volume to max and it becomes fixed output for external devices. See explanation at http://www.audioquest.com/usb_digital_analog_converter/faqs.

 

[Insatiable One]

Audioquest Dragonfly V2 vs FireStone Audio BlackKey
pros and cons of both and which is better
GO!
 
I'll tell you this right now though, the BlackKey was originally $100, and now it's $30!!!

 

[wavid]

  Is the Dragonfly 1.2 compatible with any android phone?

Actually with Android 5.0 they are bringing USB Audio support so any phone/tablet that gets 5.0 should work with this.

 

[Bostonears]

Actually with Android 5.0 they are bringing USB Audio support so any phone/tablet that gets 5.0 should work with this.

Android L (5.0) OS will support USB audio output, but not every existing Android 4.x device has the right hardware support. The feature has to be enabled by the device OEM and/or chipset maker. For some 4.x devices, it will work straight away. For others, the OEM might need to tweak their version of Android 5.0. And for other devices, it simply won't work because the hardware isn't configured for it.
 
This post by Head-Fier DanBa has a list of Android devices that already work with USB Audio (pre-Android L), as well as a list of DACs (including Dragonfly!) that are known to work with Android L.

 

[reddington]

Is the Dragonfly's amp section sufficient to drive the HD 650 directly?
Need a stopgap before I can invest on a proper headphone amp. The headphone out of my integrated CA Azur 640a v2 does an OK job. Some songs sound fine and some terrible.

 

[Guidostrunk]

I'm curious as to why I lost so much volume using Note3> OTG>DF>iCan>HD650, compared to using the HPO on my note3? 1 o'clock on my ican from the HPO is almost double the loudness from the DF. Can anyone explain?
BTW,the DF absolutely blows away the note3 internals. Night and day difference to my ears.

 

[Krutsch]

Is the Dragonfly's amp section sufficient to drive the HD 650 directly?
Need a stopgap before I can invest on a proper headphone amp. The headphone out of my integrated CA Azur 640a v2 does an OK job. Some songs sound fine and some terrible.

My opinion, having HD 650s and a DragonFly: No. Technically, it will work and you will hear music and it will sound fine. But I added a FiiO E12K and the difference was night and day. BTW, I experienced a similar result with the HD 598, as well. The DF just sounds better with an external amp.
 
Again, YMMV.

 

[Guidostrunk]

Is it possible that the output power from my note3 through otg> DF , is weaker than the HPO on my note3? It's like the DF is choking my icans output power by half.

I'm curious as to why I lost so much volume using Note3> OTG>DF>iCan>HD650, compared to using the HPO on my note3? 1 o'clock on my ican from the HPO is almost double the loudness from the DF. Can anyone explain?
BTW,the DF absolutely blows away the note3 internals. Night and day difference to my ears.

 

[reddington]

My opinion, having HD 650s and a DragonFly: No. Technically, it will work and you will hear music and it will sound fine. But I added a FiiO E12K and the difference was night and day. BTW, I experienced a similar result with the HD 598, as well. The DF just sounds better with an external amp.

Again, YMMV.

Thanks for the response. But figured it out. The Dragonfly feeding the Azur now seems a very decent combo. Actually loving the sound off my 650 now.

I got my HD 650 used. Its around 2 years old but the previous owner being more into speakers hardly used it. It was packed away for the last one year.

So possibly I was going through a bad burn in phase. Or it was disabling the system sounds in windows which made the difference. It seemed to be introducing some sort of a artificial bass boost to the sound which was messing it up.

Either way, it sounds brilliant now and think I will be more than content with the Azur's HP out till I can afford a proper amp.

 

[reddington]

I'm curious as to why I lost so much volume using Note3> OTG>DF>iCan>HD650, compared to using the HPO on my note3? 1 o'clock on my ican from the HPO is almost double the loudness from the DF. Can anyone explain?
BTW,the DF absolutely blows away the note3 internals. Night and day difference to my ears.

Are you using UAPP?

 

[Guidostrunk]

I'm using Spotify atm. It's just strange that I don't get the same volume level from my ican through DF as opposed to HPO?

Are you using UAPP?

 

[reddington]

I'm using Spotify atm. It's just strange that I don't get the same volume level from my ican through DF as opposed to HPO?

To use the iCan as the amplifier, your System volume and player volume has to be full and you have to use your iCans volume knob/buttons to control the volume. That's the way it works on windows anyways.

I use the dragonfly directly off my Nexus 5 and UAPP. Volumes on da lower side compared to the HP out. Need to enable hardware volume in the UAPP settings to truly take advantage of the dragonfly's amplification. Gets way louder than normal HP out.

Don't think Spotify can utilise the dragonfly as its meant to be done.

There's a limited time UAPP trial download on UAPPs website. Try it without and with hardware volume enabled. You will understand what am talking about.

PS Do keep volume low while trying hardware volume. Can get awfully loud

 

[Guidostrunk]

Volume on my phone is set to max. Can the volume on the DF, be controlled on my note3?

To use the iCan as the amplifier, your System volume has to be full and you have to use your iCans volume knob/buttons to control the volume. That's the way it works on windows anyways.

I use the dragonfly directly off my Nexus 5 and UAPP. Volumes on da lower side compared to the HP out. Need to enable hardware volume in the UAPP settings to truly take advantage of the dragonfly's amplification. Gets way louder than normal HP out.

Don't think Spotify can utilise the dragonfly as its meant to be done.

 

[reddington]

Volume on my phone is set to max. Can the volume on the DF, be controlled on my note3?

The Dragonfly wasn't really built keeping Android in mind. I doubt Spotify can utilise the full power of the Dragonfly.

You will need to use specialised apps like UAPP. Give the trial version a shot. Go to the menu and enable hardware volume. See if its better.