Audio Technica ATH-WS70: Newest Addition To The Family

[jageur272]

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Originally Posted by Astropin /img/forum/go_quote.gif Really? That might make you the first person in human history to hear anything below 12Hz*

Actually, a 5Hz sine wave can become audible at much lower frequencies, however, not as a 5Hz tone. Instead, you hear more of a clicking sound (which clicks at the frequency of the "tone"). Hearing actual tones below 20Hz isn't too uncommon either, 20Hz is just an "average" of sorts. Being able to hear down to 12Hz is incredible, but not useful in my opinion (perhaps jealousy is to blame

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[Astropin]

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Originally Posted by jageur272 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Actually, a 5Hz sine wave can become audible at much lower frequencies, however, not as a 5Hz tone.

? 5Hz is the frequency.....so you can't have 5Hz sine wave at a lower frequency than 5Hz.


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Originally Posted by jageur272 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Instead, you hear more of a clicking sound (which clicks at the frequency of the "tone").

What? A clicking sound at 5Hz? I'm not understanding that at all. If your not hearing a 5Hz "tone" then what is the point?

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Originally Posted by jageur272 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hearing actual tones below 20Hz isn't too uncommon either, 20Hz is just an "average" of sorts. Being able to hear down to 12Hz is incredible, but not useful in my opinion (perhaps jealousy is to blame ).

Yes...it is quite uncommon. "Most" people can not hear "tones" below 20Hz. 20Hz is considered the Lower Limit of human hearing.....not the average. The ear itself does not respond to any tones below 20Hz. Inaudible sound waves can be detected (felt) by humans via infrasonics through physical body vibration in the range of 4 to 16 Hz.....but that is not the same as "hearing" them.

 

[francisdemarte]

The specs say the lowest playback freq is 10Hz anyway.


Specifications

Type: Airtightness dynamic type
Driver: phi 40mm
Impedance: 47 ohm
Output overpressure value: 100dB/mW
Largest input: 1,000mW
Playback frequency zone: 10~25,000Hz
Mass: 230g
Cord/code length: 1.2m
Plug: gold-plating stereo mini-plug

 

[Icculus23]

Any info on the WS50?

I'm debating between a few Audio Technica models now, and don't want anything that's too bulky (i.e., the M50 seemed a bit too bulky for my tastes). I was going to settle on the ES7, but have since begun considering the WS50, WS70, or even the ANC7b.

Any insights or opinions here?

 

[syke]

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Originally Posted by Astropin /img/forum/go_quote.gif Really? That might make you the first person in human history to hear anything below 12Hz* [size=x-small]*20 Hz is considered the normal low frequency limit of human hearing. When pure sine waves are reproduced under ideal conditions and at very high volume, a human listener will be able to identify tones as low as 12 Hz. Olson, Harry F. (1967). Music, Physics and Engineering. Dover Publications. p. 249. ISBN 0486217698. Music, physics and engineering - Google Books.[/size]

LOL... Maybe I am...

Not tryin' to be superhuman here. But when i did play a 10Hz clip, it was audible on the XB700. Maybe my mind was playin' tricks on me, but it was there with them.

That aside, I guess what I was hoping to pointing out was the WS70s are not bass monsters. It has bass but not enough to smudge the entire frequency range like the XB700s do sometimes. For some it might be good news, for others it might (think hiphop, r&B).

 

[syke]

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Originally Posted by Astropin /img/forum/go_quote.gif What? A clicking sound at 5Hz? I'm not understanding that at all. If your not hearing a 5Hz "tone" then what is the point?

Actually the clicking sound was due something mechanically loose on the right side, nothing to do with frequency hearing. The vibrations exacerbated the clicking sound and it was evident throughout the low frequencies.

 

[syke]

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Originally Posted by francisdemarte /img/forum/go_quote.gif The specs say the lowest playback freq is 10Hz anyway. Specifications Type: Airtightness dynamic type Driver: phi 40mm Impedance: 47 ohm Output overpressure value: 100dB/mW Largest input: 1,000mW Playback frequency zone: 10~25,000Hz Mass: 230g Cord/code length: 1.2m Plug: gold-plating stereo mini-plug

Hell yeah... I must have pretty good ears then, I am impressed...

Geez... I must be sensitive to low frequencies...

 

[syke]

Anyway, just an update.

I got my replacement. And have currently burned them in for approx. 60 hours.

Hang in there, once I hit a hundred, I'll be back.

 

[2rooi123]

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Originally Posted by syke /img/forum/go_quote.gif Anyway, just an update. I got my replacement. And have currently burned them in for approx. 60 hours. Hang in there, once I hit a hundred, I'll be back.

Hi! i was wondering if your ws70 is uncomfortable? mine seems to clamp so hard after 5 minutes you get a headache. Is there a way to wear it to make it comfortable? hope to hear from you soon!

 

[shigzeo]

I've actually been eyeing these; I auditioned them a month or two ago and really liked them against my best judgement as I prefer full-size and DJ headphones. But for a portable, they surprise not only with their quality of build, but good sound. Not sure I like the mids as well as I had hoped, but they are very nice.

 

[syke]

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Originally Posted by 2rooi123 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hi! i was wondering if your ws70 is uncomfortable? mine seems to clamp so hard after 5 minutes you get a headache. Is there a way to wear it to make it comfortable? hope to hear from you soon!

I have the exact same thoughts, but only after an hour or so.
Like I have earlier mentioned, the build quality on this feels much sturdier than the ES7 by quite a margin.

With the ES7, it feels like its gonna fall off anytime, break a joint and end up with scuff marks all over the chrome surface. The WS70 stays there... where it should be.

Well, what I did during my burn in, I had a couple of hardcover books (~6" in depth) and used it as a headphone stand. After a week or so, it did loosen the grip it had on my head. Hope this helps.

Oh by the way, do share your WS70 experiences. It's good to hear a different take on how they perform.

Cheers!

 

[syke]

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Originally Posted by shigzeo /img/forum/go_quote.gif I've actually been eyeing these; I auditioned them a month or two ago and really liked them against my best judgement as I prefer full-size and DJ headphones. But for a portable, they surprise not only with their quality of build, but good sound. Not sure I like the mids as well as I had hoped, but they are very nice.

Yes... the mids... I will definitely come to that in my review.

 

[2rooi123]

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Originally Posted by syke /img/forum/go_quote.gif I have the exact same thoughts, but only after an hour or so. Like I have earlier mentioned, the build quality on this feels much sturdier than the ES7 by quite a margin. With the ES7, it feels like its gonna fall off anytime, break a joint and end up with scuff marks all over the chrome surface. The WS70 stays there... where it should be. Well, what I did during my burn in, I had a couple of hardcover books (~6" in depth) and used it as a headphone stand. After a week or so, it did loosen the grip it had on my head. Hope this helps. Oh by the way, do share your WS70 experiences. It's good to hear a different take on how they perform. Cheers!

It is indeed quite sturdy compared to es7. But my big head still hurts after a few minutes. Too bad they sound better than es7's but i gotta say imma be selling these tomorrow

 

[darthmaus]

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Originally Posted by syke /img/forum/go_quote.gif I have the exact same thoughts, but only after an hour or so. Like I have earlier mentioned, the build quality on this feels much sturdier than the ES7 by quite a margin. With the ES7, it feels like its gonna fall off anytime, break a joint and end up with scuff marks all over the chrome surface. The WS70 stays there... where it should be. Well, what I did during my burn in, I had a couple of hardcover books (~6" in depth) and used it as a headphone stand. After a week or so, it did loosen the grip it had on my head. Hope this helps. Oh by the way, do share your WS70 experiences. It's good to hear a different take on how they perform. Cheers!

just bend the headband. it's steel inside... so no worries there

word of caution: it would not look the same anymore. eg. like now, when u lie them down flat, the cups will touch. after the bending, it will be wide apart. if u have a hard case for it, it might not fit anymore... at least now it will be comfy

 

[Icculus23]

Any further reviews of the WS70?