[LarsHP]

Hi everyone.
I have ordered the Ref 7.1, and afterwards I wanted to makes sure that it actually plays 88.2kHz files (without downsampling to 44.1kHz).
After testing, Edwin at Audio-GD reported back that it doesn't play it, and when I asked Kingwa if he could fic this, he says that it already does.
Anyone who can confirm that the Ref 7.1 does or doesn't play 88.2kHz files?

 

[IPodPJ]

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Hi everyone.
I have ordered the Ref 7.1, and afterwards I wanted to makes sure that it actually plays 88.2kHz files (without downsampling to 44.1kHz).
After testing, Edwin at Audio-GD reported back that it doesn't play it, and when I asked Kingwa if he could fic this, he says that it already does.
Anyone who can confirm that the Ref 7.1 does or doesn't play 88.2kHz files?

There is absolutely no reason why it can't play those files.  It can play up to 24/96.  You can't listen to anything Edwin tells you.
 

 

[LarsHP]

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That would be all well and good and I've obviously tried that, except here is the only place Kingwa responds to now.  You can't reach him by e-mail anymore.  You only get Edwin.
 

That is not my experience. I just got an answer form him yesterday.
 
 

 

[LarsHP]

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There is absolutely no reason why it can't play those files.  It can play up to 24/96.  You can't listen to anything Edwin tells you.
 

 
Thanks for your answer. That was what I thought also.
What made me ask, was when I was told that the A-GD Digital Interface doesn't take 88.2kHz files.
So - that's why I would like those who already have the Ref 7.1 to report back on this.
 

 

[IPodPJ]

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Thanks for your answer. That was what I thought also.
What made me ask, was when I was told that the A-GD Digital Interface doesn't take 88.2kHz files.
So - that's why I would like those who already have the Ref 7.1 to report back on this.
 

I don't have it yet, but I know that core part of the unit is the same as the Ref 7 was.  There is absolutely no reason why it wouldn't play those files.
 

 

[IPodPJ]

Audio-gd decided to do the right thing and fix the problem which is appreciated.  I have been a good customer of theirs having purchased a Phoenix, RE1, RE7 and now RE7.1 so I have come to expect good customer service from them.
Here's a picture of the updated internals:
 

 

[Currawong]

iPodPJ: Maybe Kingwa doesn't respond to YOU.

As for you being frustrated, it is of your own making. You sold off your gear, so whining because of that is nonsense.

 

[IPodPJ]

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iPodPJ: Maybe Kingwa doesn't respond to YOU.

As for you being frustrated, it is of your own making. You sold off your gear, so whining because of that is nonsense.

You obviously did not read what I wrote then.  I'm frustrated for several reasons, one of which was having a power plant that fried a lot of stuff (and fortunately the RE7 was plugged into the wall and not into the PPP when this happened), and was frustrated (like many other customers here) because they were being intentionally lied to.  My issue was just as valid as any one else here who purchased stuff from Audio-gd.  Did you even read those threads?  I'm sure you did.  If not I can direct you to them.  Did you find a beef with those customers' complaints?  I'm sure you didn't.  And when I sold my RE7 I specified to the buyer that it wouldn't be for sale for 4-8 weeks, and I only parted with it after 6 weeks when I was given a ship date for the new DAC, otherwise I would have waited to sell it.  I have no problem with waiting 3 months for an item, as long as I'm told up front before I fork over my money.  How is that in any way unreasonable?

 

[macrog]

Is it just me that doesn't expect moderators to make bitchy comments?
 
I understood the moderators position to at least pretend to be impartial.
 
Macrog

 

[Currawong]

Nope, we are users first, moderators second. Only actual moderation is done impartially.

 

[jax]

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Thanks for your answer. That was what I thought also.
What made me ask, was when I was told that the A-GD Digital Interface doesn't take 88.2kHz files.
So - that's why I would like those who already have the Ref 7.1 to report back on this.
 

 
I have one of the last Ref 8 DACs that Kingwa built and I can assure you it plays 88.2khz files just fine (I have several from HD Tracks).  I've never had a problem.  I'd not heard of such a limitation - where are you getting this information?
 

 

[LarsHP]

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I have one of the last Ref 8 DACs that Kingwa built and I can assure you it plays 88.2khz files just fine (I have several from HD Tracks).  I've never had a problem.  I'd not heard of such a limitation - where are you getting this information?
 

Arrgh ... from Edwin at Audio-GD! But then I turned to Kingwa, and he said it worked.
 
 

 

[Currawong]

It is only the Tenor-chip-based USB that can't handle 88.2kHz files. The DACs otherwise can all play them fine through the other inputs.

 

[jax]

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It is only the Tenor-chip-based USB that can't handle 88.2kHz files. The DACs otherwise can all play them fine through the other inputs.

I opted out of USB on mine. As great as Kingwa's DACs are (and I really do love the Ref. 8), the implementation of USB to them seems like an afterthought of convenience rather than something he really focused on making special.  No direct comparative experience to back that up, just a reaction to a handful of email exchanges with Edwin and Kingwa, and from reading their site.  The option certainly was not recommended to me by them or highlighted as a must-have.  I used the SPDIF input.  Has anyone actually done some real-life comparisons on their Audio-GD with USB?
 

 

[IPodPJ]

The Ref7.1 doesn't come with any USB options.  I'm pretty sure they said they hadn't figured out a way to do it reliably yet, and the DI is better for USB anyway.