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Well, I think my recabled HD800 sound like real life, but It will be a few more weeks before I hear the LCD-2 in comparison.
We all listen to the same "real life," but when we put on headphones our individual HRTF is replaced by the headphone designer's idea of an average HRTF. Works for some and not for others. That's why some cans sound "real" to some folks and not to others. Make sense?
Anyway, I just hopped on the list for the LCD-2s, though by the sound of it I'll be lucky to get them before August has come and gone. It will be my first pair of orthos that I've owned, and I'll be interested to see what they can do as compared to the HD800s and T1s. I'll admit that the FOTM syndrome has probably influenced my decision to buy a pair, but it certainly won't make them sound any better than they actually are when they're sitting on my noggin.
We all listen to the same "real life," but when we put on headphones our individual HRTF is replaced by the headphone designer's idea of an average HRTF. Works for some and not for others. That's why some cans sound "real" to some folks and not to others. Make sense?
IME it makes a lot of sense, the problem is that your brain is accustomed to hearing things a lot farther away from your ears than headphones, so that plays as a disadvantage since your brain takes into consideration how sound waves are affected by the body before it reaches your ears, so it compensates accordingly, and there is a lot of differences between our bodies, the variability between our HRTF's is probably quite big (I guess I just expanded a little bit what you said, I just wanted to emphasize that I support what you say).
We all listen to the same "real life," but when we put on headphones our individual HRTF is replaced by the headphone designer's idea of an average HRTF. Works for some and not for others. That's why some cans sound "real" to some folks and not to others. Make sense?
TigzStudio said:
And add in to all that the various recording engineers, and how many recordings vary in quality.
Not to mention that we don't even know how a recording is supposed to sound to the ears of the people who made it.
Exactly. We like to think a headphone sounds accurate but we don't really know, unless we are listening to a live recording that we heard live with our own ears. What is better to say is that a particular headphone is more transparent than another headphone, because we can hear more detail in it that we couldn't hear on the other; same goes for a DAC.
the person in line in front of me (whose moniker I've now forgotten) brought his pair of HD800 to compare...he seemed to think that perhaps the LCD-2 were a little bright...I would've gone with vivid as I didn't find it unpleasant...I don't think it unfair to say that coming from Senns, anything might sound a touch bright or colored...every pair I tried didn't sound so much veiled as muted...I still liked them (HD800) quite a bit--especially on Asr's QB-9/Auditor rig--but I'd have the LCD-2 every day of the week...
obviously, neither of us were very familiar with the Liquid Fire amp...or the recording for that matter...so take this all with a grain of salt...but I will say that I didn't have to settle into the LCD-2's sound...I enjoyed it immediately...
noSeems to me that if the explanation is that we all hear different, then if someone thinks headphone A is brighter than most people, the real world would also sound brighter to them than most people. And vice versa. Which may be true, and in that case, finding a less bright headphone might be a relief from the bright sound of most things. but that isn't true to the "real world" anymore. Not that it matters of course. I just want what sounds real to me. Which is usually not as bright as most. Concerts almost always sound too bright to me too, so maybe I am just sensitive. or maybe rock concerts just have bad acoustics. who knows. unamped acoustic guitar sounds good. And so do my phones.
I apologize for the off topic post...
It just means the either you've accommodated to the 800s or that they match your particular HRTF better than the LCD-2s. Do yourself a favor though, and give them a listen.
BTW, many in the music profession are dumping everything for the LCD-2s as they have opportunity to hear them.