I’m super into hip-hop. I found the Solitare P lacking in subass, at least compared to the TCs. The Susvaras also don’t have the same quantity of subass as the TCs. With modern hip-hop, subass is much more important than midbass. Also, different bass notes aren’t used as much with modern production, for whatever reason. Hip-hop sounds the best when a subwoofer is present, and only the TCs give that subwoofer sound in a pair of headphones (maybe the th900mk2 comes close). The TC earcups need to be toed out to achieve the subwoofer effect. When they aren’t toed out, you don’t get it (or at least not as much). If you pull the Susvaras away from your ears, you get that TC sub bass quantity, with perhaps better quality too. So, I get what you mean, but it’s just not feasible to listen to the Susvaras while holding the earcups out for any extended period of time.Considering how poorly some hip hop records are mastered, I would think something darker with good bass quality and extension, like the Soli P, would be better for hip hop than the Abyss. I found the Abyss to have a lot of bass quantity, but it didn't express the difference between bass notes as well because it is so bombastic that it can't be nuanced in the bass at the same time. Even the Susvara was better with bass quality, here's an example I wrote about a long time ago that you can try yourself.
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