[ra990]

I've spent a few weeks now going between the Abyss TC and the Susvara and based on what I'm hearing, the Susvara is more accurate in bass than the Abyss. The Abyss hits with more impact, but the accuracy of the bass is compromised on.

For a perfect demonstration, listen to the first track on Childish Gambino's "Awaken, My Love". On the first track, titled "Me and Your Mama", it starts off with a bass synth line that sounds amazing on both headphones, but then you get to about 1:35 in the track where the bass drops at least an octave and is now mostly sub bass. The dramatic drop in the bass is way more evident on the Susvara. With the Abyss, the initial bass synth already has so much impact that when it drops even lower, you don't notice the change as much, it doesn't hit much harder. In this scenario, the Susvara is conveying the bass more accurately, imo.

 

[Slim1970]

I've spent a few weeks now going between the Abyss TC and the Susvara and based on what I'm hearing, the Susvara is more accurate in bass than the Abyss. The Abyss hits with more impact, but the accuracy of the bass is compromised on.

For a perfect demonstration, listen to the first track on Childish Gambino's "Awaken, My Love". On the first track, titled "Me and Your Mama", it starts off with a bass synth line that sounds amazing on both headphones, but then you get to about 1:35 in the track where the bass drops at least an octave and is now mostly sub bass. The dramatic drop in the bass is way more evident on the Susvara. With the Abyss, the initial bass synth already has so much impact that when it drops even lower, you don't notice the change as much, it doesn't hit much harder. In this scenario, the Susvara is conveying the bass more accurately, imo.

The Susvara does has better bass definition and layering. The TC's hit so hard and deep and really wows you with its impact and aggression. That's not what the Susvara's are trying to do. The Susvara's just has a different way of conveying music. All the subtleties and nuances in the music comes across a little bit better on the Susvara's to my ears.

 

[ra990]

The Susvara does has better bass definition and layering. The TC's hit so hard and deep and really wows you with its impact and aggression. That's not what the Susvara's are trying to do. The Susvara's just has a different way of conveying music. All the subtleties and nuances in the music comes across a little bit better on the Susvara's to my ears.

The background details, I guess which are more in the treble, come across with more clarity on the TC for me. But bass clarity goes to Susvara. I love them both and I'm extremely fortunate to be able to switch back and fourth as my mood changes.

 

[vonBaron]

When i put 1266 afrer Susvara i think Susvara have 0 bass lol!

 

[Trance_Gott]

When i put 1266 afrer Susvara i think Susvara have 0 bass lol!

Bass quantity is not all.
Abyss has not the quality of HD800 or Utopia in the bass department and the upper mids are very very recessed.
Cannot believe that Susvara don't destroy them in bass quality and mids.

 

[iFi audio]

I agree that -36dB done in the digital domain seems like a kind of huge amount.

It's a lot. Personally I'd avoid digital volume attenuation at all cost.

 

[Bonesy Jonesy]

It's a lot. Personally I'd avoid digital volume attenuation at all cost.

Technical reason for this ?

 

[m17xr2b]

Mathematically any digital volume control throws away 1 bit every 6dB

 

[Trance_Gott]

Metal and Susvara works great or not? Or better go with HE1000SE?

 

[iFi audio]

Mathematically any digital volume control throws away 1 bit every 6dB

Exactly: https://ifi-audio.com/faqs/increasing-digital-volume-to-recover-bits/

 

[Ross Kyle]

So I have one of the unlucky headbands that slide down as soon as you place on my head , any remedies to this ?

 

[MatW]

No. You have to return it. I had the same issue with a unit I bought from a headfier. It was a brand new item. Fortunately the seller took it back immediately and contacted the original dealer. I cannot believe something this obvious would pass quality control. How does this happen?

 

[Ross Kyle]

No. You have to return it. I had the same issue with a unit I bought from a headfier. It was a brand new item. Fortunately the seller took it back immediately and contacted the original dealer. I cannot believe something this obvious would pass quality control. How does this happen?

yikes thats a no go Hifiman refused lol might need to re email them

 

[MatW]

yikes thats a no go Hifiman refused lol might need to re email them

Depends if it's new or not, I guess. But I cannot see this happenening over time to a well-functioning headband. So if this happens, it is most likely a production issue. (Like it was with my brand new unit.) Unless I'm missing something.

 

[Ross Kyle]

Depends if it's new or not, I guess. But I cannot see this happenening over time to a well-functioning headband. So if this happens, it is most likely a production issue. (Like it was with my brand new unit.) Unless I'm missing something.

was open box from US , so was pretty much brand new in warranty but not authorised dealer so they got all weird with me , thinks it’s a production thing emailed them about servicing at least hopefully shame cause i love the headphones