Oct 2, 2017 at 7:29 AM Post #11,311 of 13,218
So I just pulled the trigger on some LCD-2f bamboo,I have been unable to listen to them before I purchased them so I hope I will like them.

I recently owned the el-8 Open 2015 version and I liked them but moved them on thinking I would prefer the Oppo pm-2 but I didn’t.I then ordered some focal elear but returned them due to finding them fatiguing,so my question is will the LCD-2f sound better than all of the above I did like the el-8 I really hope they are a better version of those.
Any one compare the two I have searched but can’t really fine anything comparing the two.

Cheers
 
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Oct 2, 2017 at 7:45 AM Post #11,312 of 13,218
So I just pulled the trigger on some LCD-2f bamboo,I have been unable to listen to them before I purchased them so I hope I will like them.

I recently owned the el-8 Open 2015 version and I liked them but moved them on thinking I would prefer the Oppo pm-2 but I didn’t.I then ordered some focal elear but returned them due to finding them fatiguing,so my question is will the LCD-2f sound better than all of the above I did like the el-8 I really hope they are a better version of those.
Any one compare the two I have searched but can’t really fine anything comparing the two.

Cheers
hmm "fatiguing" is true to all of my headphones I have owned after a long period of listening (from balanced amateur to cone dynamic) but not the LCD-2. This is the most sweet and euphonious headphone in the world IMHO.
P/s: No, it has treble and is nowhere as dark as Togo 334
 
Oct 2, 2017 at 8:34 AM Post #11,313 of 13,218
Hi guys...

its time for me to get rid of the stock cable
. In search for a good new one i found a lot of people reccomending the toxic cable silver widow.

i search only in europe since there are customes fee for outside Greece
 
Oct 2, 2017 at 10:15 AM Post #11,314 of 13,218
So I just pulled the trigger on some LCD-2f bamboo,I have been unable to listen to them before I purchased them so I hope I will like them.

I recently owned the el-8 Open 2015 version and I liked them but moved them on thinking I would prefer the Oppo pm-2 but I didn’t.I then ordered some focal elear but returned them due to finding them fatiguing,so my question is will the LCD-2f sound better than all of the above I did like the el-8 I really hope they are a better version of those.
Any one compare the two I have searched but can’t really fine anything comparing the two.

Cheers
I still have both my EL-8 open and LCD-2f, I like the EL-8 more since the mids are a bit livelier and the weight of the LCD-2f is just a bit too heavy, I can only listen for 30min max with them. I haven't heard the Elear yet but I also didn't care for the PM-1 that a friend had.

The only headphone that I found fatiguing after a few hours was the HD600 due to the small peak in the 4-5khz range and only with certain tracks, other brighter headphones which have peaks located at higher frequencies like the HD700, HD800 and RS2e don't bother me.

Hi guys...

its time for me to get rid of the stock cable
. In search for a good new one i found a lot of people reccomending the toxic cable silver widow.

i search only in europe since there are customes fee for outside Greece
I'm a non-believer in cables making a difference on headphones since I've yet to hear a cable make a difference in sound on any headphone but have owned cables from Forza (HD800) and Double-Helix (Hfiman SMC) which were works of art and very well crafted, gave them to a friend since wanted a softer better feeling cable than the stock HD800 and HE560 cables.
 
Oct 2, 2017 at 12:26 PM Post #11,315 of 13,218
Hi guys...

its time for me to get rid of the stock cable
. In search for a good new one i found a lot of people reccomending the toxic cable silver widow.

i search only in europe since there are customes fee for outside Greece
Don't spend a fortune on just cables. Higher quality cable can only improve sound upto certain levels.
 
Oct 2, 2017 at 8:10 PM Post #11,316 of 13,218
So I just pulled the trigger on some LCD-2f bamboo,I have been unable to listen to them before I purchased them so I hope I will like them.

I recently owned the el-8 Open 2015 version and I liked them but moved them on thinking I would prefer the Oppo pm-2 but I didn’t.I then ordered some focal elear but returned them due to finding them fatiguing,so my question is will the LCD-2f sound better than all of the above I did like the el-8 I really hope they are a better version of those.
Any one compare the two I have searched but can’t really fine anything comparing the two.

Cheers
I've never heard the EL-8. I do own the LCD-2F aluminum version. If your bamboo version is anything like my aluminum, then they are hardly fatiguing at all. Happy listening and enjoy the music :L3000:
 
Oct 2, 2017 at 9:08 PM Post #11,317 of 13,218
Hi guys...

its time for me to get rid of the stock cable
. In search for a good new one i found a lot of people reccomending the toxic cable silver widow.

i search only in europe since there are customes fee for outside Greece

' Forza audioworks ' another option based in Europe
 
Oct 3, 2017 at 3:23 PM Post #11,318 of 13,218
Hi Guys

Just having my first listen and I'm pleased to say these are what I've been searching for, love the sound.What I dont like is the comfort on the top of my head, so I will definitely be purchasing the carbon fiber headband.
How much does the carbon headband improve comfort ?

Also I have a different cable it is a briaded cable oppose to the ribben one ive seen in pictures.
 
Oct 3, 2017 at 4:56 PM Post #11,319 of 13,218
Hi Guys

Just having my first listen and I'm pleased to say these are what I've been searching for, love the sound.What I dont like is the comfort on the top of my head, so I will definitely be purchasing the carbon fiber headband.
How much does the carbon headband improve comfort ?

Also I have a different cable it is a briaded cable oppose to the ribben one ive seen in pictures.
I would get the Lohb strap, more comfortable and way cheaper, but not as cool looking to some.
A friend who has the carbon fiber headband on his LCD-3f said it feels almost the same, just a bit lighter.
 
Oct 4, 2017 at 9:46 AM Post #11,320 of 13,218
Been a while since I posted, had to sell most of my stuff to pay for my wife's surgeries and our new lifestyle change (she lost her vision). I did manage to snag a pair of V-moda m-100's which were awesome at the time, closed back for listening in hospital waiting rooms, but they were completely different from what I had. A few months ago I came across some Sennheiser HD 558's at Best Buy clearance open item 60 dollars and I was able to get back into my old listening habits, fantastic value those, really underrated. To be honest, I could settle for them, and be happy, but my wife wanted me to get back some of what I had lost. I really liked my HD 558's, however, and figured rather than re purchase HD 800's or Grado's, I would try something new. So here I am with a used pair of LCD 2 Shedua's that I finally put back in their case, and I am extremely satisfied and very surprised. I always thought these were bass heavy dark headphones, but these aren't dark in the least, might even be just a touch sibilant right on the edge of my hearing, but not quite at the level of harshness that would lead to fatigue with longer listening times. Detailed to the point of fault, the few edm, electronic cds I have sound synthetic with these headphones, artificial. Poorly recorded thrash metal sounds like trash metal. I can almost hear Mr. Coltrane's saxophone curling the smoke of a nearby smokers at a jazz club. But even so, bass goes all the way down, and unlike the Sennheisers, feels like lower than I can hear, but where I can still feel it, and lots and lots of layers. And unlike the V-modas, it seems to match the recording, if the recording has bass, then there is bass, and vice versa. Mids are board flat, not as inspiring as the bass or the highs, but not really lacking either, beautiful in their own right, just outclassed by the highs and lows.

The one thing that does suffer with the audeze's is the sound staging. Not as wide as the sennheiser, but not closed in by any means, but it does put the vocals a little too far back if the recording isn't perfect. It would be the perfect headphone if the soundstage was just a little wider and less deep. Still, its a minor quibble for a headphone that manages to reproduce sound at all ranges as well as it does.

Solid 5 stars, I'll try some more electronic music at some point, but for now, I would say Jazz and small ensemble chamber are the best for these. Anything with real instruments and good recording sound pretty good actually, havent had any problems with classic rock, though most of my classic rock collection consist of remastered versions, so ymmv....
Needless to say I'll be keeping these, unless something else major happens....
 
Oct 5, 2017 at 12:39 AM Post #11,322 of 13,218
Been a while since I posted, had to sell most of my stuff to pay for my wife's surgeries and our new lifestyle change (she lost her vision). I did manage to snag a pair of V-moda m-100's which were awesome at the time, closed back for listening in hospital waiting rooms, but they were completely different from what I had. A few months ago I came across some Sennheiser HD 558's at Best Buy clearance open item 60 dollars and I was able to get back into my old listening habits, fantastic value those, really underrated. To be honest, I could settle for them, and be happy, but my wife wanted me to get back some of what I had lost. I really liked my HD 558's, however, and figured rather than re purchase HD 800's or Grado's, I would try something new. So here I am with a used pair of LCD 2 Shedua's that I finally put back in their case, and I am extremely satisfied and very surprised. I always thought these were bass heavy dark headphones, but these aren't dark in the least, might even be just a touch sibilant right on the edge of my hearing, but not quite at the level of harshness that would lead to fatigue with longer listening times. Detailed to the point of fault, the few edm, electronic cds I have sound synthetic with these headphones, artificial. Poorly recorded thrash metal sounds like trash metal. I can almost hear Mr. Coltrane's saxophone curling the smoke of a nearby smokers at a jazz club. But even so, bass goes all the way down, and unlike the Sennheisers, feels like lower than I can hear, but where I can still feel it, and lots and lots of layers. And unlike the V-modas, it seems to match the recording, if the recording has bass, then there is bass, and vice versa. Mids are board flat, not as inspiring as the bass or the highs, but not really lacking either, beautiful in their own right, just outclassed by the highs and lows.

The one thing that does suffer with the audeze's is the sound staging. Not as wide as the sennheiser, but not closed in by any means, but it does put the vocals a little too far back if the recording isn't perfect. It would be the perfect headphone if the soundstage was just a little wider and less deep. Still, its a minor quibble for a headphone that manages to reproduce sound at all ranges as well as it does.

Solid 5 stars, I'll try some more electronic music at some point, but for now, I would say Jazz and small ensemble chamber are the best for these. Anything with real instruments and good recording sound pretty good actually, havent had any problems with classic rock, though most of my classic rock collection consist of remastered versions, so ymmv....
Needless to say I'll be keeping these, unless something else major happens....

TB Isone AU/VST tool lets you subtly dial the soundstage if your set-up can take plug-ins.
 
Oct 7, 2017 at 10:18 AM Post #11,324 of 13,218
can anyone shed some light?
i keep reading that the wa2 (otl) amp can't run the lcd2 (most of the time it's negative).

what i can't figure out is that i don't hear any issues at all

at 1/2 volume (12 o'clock) it's a decent volume level, at 2pm it's very loud

why do i have no issues but MOST postings on headfi dismiss the amp to drive it?

i did read somewhere that planars aren't as power hungry as dynamic headphones - is that it

(in case there are expressions of moral outrage ma=y i declare that i've also posted this on the wa2 thread)

thanks
 
Oct 7, 2017 at 10:27 AM Post #11,325 of 13,218
can anyone shed some light?
i keep reading that the wa2 (otl) amp can't run the lcd2 (most of the time it's negative).

what i can't figure out is that i don't hear any issues at all

at 1/2 volume (12 o'clock) it's a decent volume level, at 2pm it's very loud

why do i have no issues but MOST postings on headfi dismiss the amp to drive it?

i did read somewhere that planars aren't as power hungry as dynamic headphones - is that it

(in case there are expressions of moral outrage ma=y i declare that i've also posted this on the wa2 thread)

thanks
I don't think its the issue of volume level, it more an issue of sound signature. While I haven't tried a LCD-2 on a WA2 I did try it on a Elise and it made the LCD-2 sound like a mess with flabby bass and rolled of highs which to some is what they are looking for so in your case you might just like the warmer presentation of the LCD-2 paired with the WA2.
 

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