AP80 - Hidizs next portable Hi-Res music player
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I seem to remember that it may be via Kickstarter, and by "end of October". But actual units would then be some time later. Have not seen an update in several weeks.

You can sign up for updates, and read preliminary specs at: https://ap80pro.hidizs.net/

Dimensions are wrong on their webpage. Should be same size as AP80. 2 Dacs (Same model as AP80, but 2) Single ended only. Looks like can support 256DSD, up from 128.
Yes, dimensions are incorrect on the page, can't be smaller than M0 considering 2.45" display. But it's NOT single ended "only" anymore. They updated the page with a reference to 2.5mm Balanced output. Also, I saw somewhere on FB, they replied with "price is not finalized yet, but will be under $200".
 
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Yes, dimensions are incorrect on the page, can't be smaller than M0 considering 2.45" display. But it's NOT single ended "only" anymore. They updated the page with a reference to 2.5mm Balanced output. Also, I saw somewhere on FB, they replied with "price is not finalized yet, but will be under $200".
Looks it's Shanling m0 killer. Double DAC + balanced + 8ballEQ
 
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Yes, dimensions are incorrect on the page, can't be smaller than M0 considering 2.45" display. But it's NOT single ended "only" anymore. They updated the page with a reference to 2.5mm Balanced output. Also, I saw somewhere on FB, they replied with "price is not finalized yet, but will be under $200".
That's a great price for Balanced! Thanks for the update!
(Then it would be like the new Hiby R3-Pro. Which I presume would still have balanced like the R3, but also with double DACs in the PRO)
 
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I've never heard the M0 personally but reviews say the AP80's sound is superior.
The good thing about m0 its built like a tank, I dropped it twice and works. AP80 may shatter because of glass on the backside ?
 
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The good thing about m0 its built like a tank, I dropped it twice and works. AP80 may shatter because of glass on the backside ?
Well, I dropped my AP80 pretty hard on a gritty concrete sidewalk just the other day. The screen didn't break at all, but I noticed some scratching and small marks in it, which really bummed me out -- until I remembered it came with stock screen protectors pre-applied to the front and back panels! It was like a moment of sadness and instant relief as I remembered, haha... in any case, it survived a pretty bad scenario of a drop and the AP80 comes with backup screen protectors if the initial ones get too marked up. I take good care of my gear, but of course accidents happen. I've been more than happy with the build quality of my AP80 so far.
 
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I noticed something regarding the connection via BT to an iOS devicee; the issue that it is in sbc mode. I found a,workaround of sorts and can connect,to an iOS,device with apx.

If you go In To your BT settings on the phone and select the ap80 to connect - it will connect in aptx, but if you turn on BT on the 80 in its menu and connect to the iOS device through the 80, it will be in sbc.

The downside is that when connected in aptx, there is a three second audio delay...this is not an issue for music, but it makes watching video impossible.

Forgive the spelling and grammar - typing from phone with fat fingers.
 
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I noticed something regarding the connection via BT to an iOS devicee; the issue that it is in sbc mode. I found a,workaround of sorts and can connect,to an iOS,device with apx.

If you go In To your BT settings on the phone and select the ap80 to connect - it will connect in aptx, but if you turn on BT on the 80 in its menu and connect to the iOS device through the 80, it will be in sbc.

The downside is that when connected in aptx, there is a three second audio delay...this is not an issue for music, but it makes watching video impossible.

Forgive the spelling and grammar - typing from phone with fat fingers.
the lack of aac on this is honestly ridiculous in 2019
 
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the lack of aac on this is honestly ridiculous in 2019
Maybe so, maybe not. This is a budget device that has fairly good sound quality, screen size, and a variety of other features that solidly outperforms the fiio m5 and shanling m0.

I have used this along side the m0 and m5, and it is easily the best of three. I also prefer it in many ways to the shanling m2x.

I’m assuming yo hav used the device. Compromises have to be made, and th good news is there are other options that may suit your needs better.

(Apple needs to get moving on ldac, which would render the hand wringing over lower end BT codec support moot. )
 
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I've never heard the M0 personally but reviews say the AP80's sound is superior.
I use a chord 2 Hugo for a dac/amp for 99% of my listening. For those times I don’t, I prefer the ap80’s sound quality over not only the shanling m0, fiio m5, and in many cases to the shanling m2x. I would imagine the ap80 pro willl be clearly ahead of the m2x in both se and balanced.

The major feature the m2x has going for it (for my needs) is the airplay compatibility with iOS devices. The ap80 is a solid contender, and I would be shocked if the pro doesn’t make it even more so.
 
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This was actually a review I created on amazon, to try and help others. I'm re-posting it here for the same reason:

0--Don't buy this player if you have fat fingers or bad eyes, due to the small touchscreen
1--It puts out a neutral sound signature, so the 10 band equalizer & MSEB are rarely needed
2--Replaygain will work if you add replaygain tags to files using foobar2000 program (free)
3--You can play music off USB flash drive if you have an OTG type C to A adapter
4--Ap80 doesn't show all tags properly from Mp3tag. Use TagScanner (free) instead
5--If album art not showing (rare), copy it into windows paint and reduce the size
6--If sorting by Genres or Artists, icon in upper right switches album view / track view
7--New ap80 has 2 plastic protectors, remove top layer, keep 2nd layer. 2 replacements in box
8--Headphones under ruffly 40 ohms use gain low, bigger use gain high. Cap volume at 80
9--If you open a folder that contains thousands of songs there can be a slight delay, its normal
10-If headaches: enable Replaygain, disable equalizers, set gain low, buy neutral headphones
11-If touch screen freezes flick off on. If OS freezes hold power button 10s to force shutdown
12-Enabling 'in line remote' option makes button on headphone cable work
13-Click button on cable once for play/pause, twice to skip track
14-There's a delete option, for single files or entire folders, by holding touch on them
15-Battery plays 12 hours. Charge time: usb 3.0 port = 2hrs / 5v2.4a charger = 1hr20min
16-Beware: cold winter temperatures may damage the battery or the screen
17-Use audacity (free) to convert from wav to flac which is smaller and shows true bitrate
18-FM radio works good, but you have to connect wired headphones, not BT
19-Output frequency is 20-40kHz. Use SPEK (free) to show the true level of Hi-Res files
20-USB mode audio sends pc sound to ap80. Plug & play on win10. Check sound control panel
21-You can't install apps (google play, apple store, etc..), or connect to wifi, on ap80
22-SD card and TF card mean the exact same thing, u can use either one
23-Google: ap80 firmware, to find the latest firmware update and instructions
24-Beware of fake SD cards. Don't update firmware before testing yours with H2testw (free)
25-First firmware update may require FAT32. Switch to exFAT for everything afterwards
26-For playlists; use a:\ indexing, in m3u files, in folder named playlist_data
27-Tracks listed in .cue files will display when navigating sd card by files, or tags
28-Standby setting pauses idle timer, but not sleep timer
29-Sleep timer counts down immediately, even if device in use. Disables itself after each use
30-Gapless playback option is helpful when working out to EDM
31-If BT not pairing reboot both. Start pairing, hit search devices, wait, check bottom of list
32-Shuffle plays each song once in a random order. Then stops, or goes to next folder
33-Ap80 can scan almost 2000 songs per minute, when updating music database
34-Database can index tag data for up to 20 000 tracks
35-FOUND.000 folder is caused by navigating Files on ap80 before updating database
36-There is a setting to resume play (after powering on) from last track or position
37-Ap80 manual can be found on google
 
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It may be worth noting that formatting the SD card to ExFAT also works without issue.
when i first got my ap80 i tried updating firmware from ntfs, exfat, and fat32 logical parititon, and nothing worked until i used fat32 primary partition. the only weakness of fat32 is windows wont format fat32 on an sd card larger then 32GB. so i had to use a third party software.

if exfat is working for you to update firmware then either i never really tried it, or perhaps they updated the updater itself. i notice when im updating firmware it says updater v1.1 or something.

in the ap80 'quick user guide' it says to use fat32:

Firmware upgrade
The firmware upgrade may cause the machine to malfunction due to
incorrect operation!
Read the following upgrade instructions carefully before upgrade.
Please do not turn off the player during the upgrade process, and
ensure the battery level is not less than 30%
Copy the AP80 upgrade update.upt provided by Hidizs to FAT32
format.
TF card root directory, insert the TF card into the AP80. Enter system
settings —> click system upgrade —»A prompt box will pop up: Click to
con[Jrm the upgrade
 
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