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Android phones and USB DACs

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by nztechfreak, Feb 9, 2012.
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  1. kawaivpc1

    Have you seen anyone using a DAC with Tab 4 at all?

    10.1 tab 4 works very well with nearly all of the products our there. I had a Nexus 7. It couldn't drive majority of DACs. I think size of battery kinda matters.
     
  2. dynacampjim
    To add to Theogenes's contribution on Samsung tablets, I have a Samsung 10.1 Tab Pro running 4.4.2, which I was pleased to find would work with my iFi Nano iDSD without UAPP or Hiby. Also I have found it to be more 'robust' than using other phones with UAPP, by which I mean there are virtually no breaks in the audio ( I get the occasional glitch with other phones running UAPP with the iFi ). The tablet will also work with a Dacmagic XS without UAPP but unfortunately only through a powered hub. The iFi Nano is excellent but I am also impressed with the Dacmagic which I obtained for £50 on Black Friday - it's a really small portable device with a useful analogue volume control. It's a pity that it just seems to use a bit too much power. I found that it would work without a powered hub with my Sony Xperia Z Ultra to begin with, but after running it down to about 50% battery power and plugging in again after a break, then it would not work properly - so it's right on the borderline !
    Regarding the headphone out on Samsung tabs, I am on my 4th Samsung tab and all have been wifi only and I have found all to be pretty good. I prefer listening through a dac because it is easier to control volume levels which can also be a bit louder where needed.
     
  3. Percival
    Yeah that £50 deal was so good! :) It's a lovely little device. Nice build quality too.
     
    I use mine with a Samsung Galaxy S4 (with UAPP) and it doesn't seem to care about battery level. The Dacmagic XS does get warm though - so I guess it's not particularly power efficient. Hopefully that wasted heat is a result of a decent voltage regulator.
     
  4. ghassan37
    Hey! Could you help me out a bit. I'm wondering if you are using your M8 in your car? Could you tell me what setup you are using in layman terms? I have a z3 and I want to connect it to my car audio system via USB as the auxiliary sounds terrible. I would also like to be able to stream spotify and the such. So using my phone as a media storage device is not my goal. 
     
    I'd appreciate any advice, I've been combing the internet and most things go over my head. 
     
    Thanks 
     
  5. Theogenes

    Other than my 8.0 Tab 4, I have not. Mine replaced my Nexus 7, incidentally.
     
  6. DanBa
     
    Just use an USB DAC compatible with the native Xperia Z3:
     
    Z3 >> USB OTG cable >> compatible USB DAC >> car audio amp (via its auxiliary input) >> car audio speakers
     
     
    Such a compatible USB DAC could be an AudioQuest DragonFly v1.2:
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/5670#post_11042510
    http://www.whathifi.com/audioquest/dragonfly-v12/review
    http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/487-audioquest-dragonfly-review/
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/617241/audioquest-dragonfly-review-affordable-outstanding-tiny-dac-amp
     
    Z3 >> USB OTG adapter >> DragonFly v1.2 >> car audio amp >> car audio speakers
     
    USB OTG adapter:
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/6135#post_11222599
    A list of USB OTG cables:
    http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

     
  7. DanBa
     
    Agreed! 
     
    But most non-HeadFiers  could prefer a convenient all-in-one setup such as the Zorloo Z:ero.
     
    Android phone >> Z:ero: USB DAC > amp > earphones
     
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    Most HeadFiers should prefer setups using replaceable separate components.
    The USB DAC/amp of the Z:ero is almost the same size as the AudioQuest DragonFly.
     
    DragonFly + JH Audio Roxanne:
     
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    Another DragonFly-based setup:
     
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  8. kawaivpc1

    I sent back my Nexus 7. I will get Tab 4 7.0 next week.
    I'll try to use a microSD to SD adapter and 256GB SD card. I think they will fit into Tab 4's leather case. We will see.
     
  9. morksoldat
    Hi everybody, first post here.
     
    Just reporting that my Fiio E10K is working like charm with my Nexus 5 (Android 5.0 Lollipop). Seems like there is a new function in Lollipop, because I tried it before and it didn't work.
     
    Nexus 5 (Android 5.0 stock) >> USB OTG cable >> Fiio E10K >> Headphones -- Working!!!
    Nexus 5 (Android 4.4 stock) >> USB OTG cable >> Fiio E10K >> Headphones -- Not Working
    Galaxy S3 (SlimKat 4.4) >> USB OTG cable >> Fiio E10K >> Headphones -- Not Working
     
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  10. xnolb
    Hey,
    I'm looking for DAC to Nexus7 2012 with Lolipop, behringer UCA222 will be OK?
     
    I will be using this in car, so i need digital out(spdif/coaxial out) and RCA out
     
  11. DanBa
    "Record and play back audio in USB host mode
    This function is only available on Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Nexus 7 (2013), Nexus 9 and Nexus 10 devices from Android 5.0 Lollipop."
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/6135#post_11222599
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the native USB audio of Android 5.0 Lollipop:
    stock Google Nexus X running on Android 5.0 Lollipop > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
    http://goo.gl/x3loEQ

     
     
    Nexus 7 2012 and Behringer UCA222 are compatible with USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP):
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/6135#post_11222599
    A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
    http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/

    music file > UAPP player running on Android 5.0 Lollipop-powered Nexus 7 2012 > USB out >> Behringer UCA222 >> car audio amp >> car audio speakers
     
     
    Rooted Nexus 7 2012, Timur's USB OTG CyanogenMod 10.1 Rom & USB audio:
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/3210#post_9864939
     
     
     
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  12. Theogenes
     
    Keep us posted man! :)
     
  13. DanBa
    OTG Micro to Micro cable for self-powered USB DAC which doesn't need 5V from the host
    https://www.facebook.com/ElijahAudio
    http://www.elijahaudio.com/

    "Mundorf Silver/Gold wire, 0.5mm
    D+, D-, Gnd, no 5V"

    "Our USB products offer the option of clean battery power, whilst isolating the DAC from the noisy 5v power."


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  14. cheul
    And another Hibymusic update is available. Great bit of software for music lovers on the go.
     
  15. robob

    Improvements for Hibymusic in the audio file classification :

    If I choose "genre" and, for exemple "Jazz", it shows all jazz audio files by alphabetic order.
    Anyway to classify first by "genre" next " artist" next "album" and in the end title by album order ?
    the same in all classification...

    Ty
     
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