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Android phones and USB DACs

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by nztechfreak, Feb 9, 2012.
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  1. UprightMan
     
    note that I ordered this and within a week it stopped working (metal came loose from plastic).  It's too far away to pay for shipping/warranty (if there is one) so take that into consideration when buying (build quality may not be great)
     
  2. LajostheHun
    I downloaded it last night into my Xperia Z3. The playback controls are very sluggish, not just play pause but selecting a track as well. Back to "walkman" app for me.
     
  3. LajostheHun
    The implementation might be low end but the idea is not a gimmick, certainly more intelligent than carry around big heavy DAC/amps, with silly cables all over the place.
     
  4. LajostheHun
    LOL did you get that out of your crystal ball?
     
  5. kawaivpc1

    It can happen in 2025.
    Trust me. Within ten years, a company will figure out how to make that kind of DAC-integrated headphone with full 32bit 382kHz / DSD support.
    Portable DACs let you use very high quality music files. It's an advance in that part, but as far as portability goes, it's degrading convenience of a smartphone.
    Someone will fix this.
     
  6. LajostheHun
    It will happen much sooner than that. Look at the quality of the Dragonfly and such, it's not much bigger than  an inline volume control on headphones right now. If we talking about full size headphones it's already here sort of with Sony's new ADAC headphone. Sony could add DSD and higher bit and sampling rate support today. 
     
  7. thedude22
    Apple's supposed to be getting rid of the 3.5 jack in their next iphone, instead you'll have to use the lightning jack. I think part of their reasoning is what you guys are discussing. 
     
    First time entering this thread, trying to see if there is a consensus budget phone that actually has a good dac. And I mean like pay as you go phone type quality. 
     
  8. h1f1add1cted

    No it is a gimmick. The low end In-Ear which is built-in and can't be replaced is finally wasted electronic. The most top tier smartphones have a great DAC section and a very clean audio output, with enough power to drive to most In-Ears properly and deliver very low output impendance to cover sensetive multi BA In-Ears too. A dedicated DAC/AMP makes sense if you need to drive real headphones the need power, but for In-Ears are is that not the case. And this device has 1. not enough power for real cans 2. no option to use a other can, as the built-in one. Go for a audioquest Dragonfly or something if you want a small DAC/AMP whith more power and better connectivity. Just my 2 cents.
     
  9. bigmcc
    Hi guys
     
    First post so be kind!
     
    Just got myself the Geek out 1000 and it does sound amazing on my laptop using Tidal
     
    My question is has anyone got a Geek and using it with an Android? I currently use a OnePlus phone, and as mentioned previously I would like to use Tidal to stream as I am on the road a lot.
     
    Thanks in advance
     
    Charlie
     
  10. DanBa
    Sony MDR-1ADAC DSD-compatible USB headphones:
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/733238/awesome-or-gimmick-sonys-mdr-1adac/30#post_11221165
    http://www.sony.jp/support/headphone/confirm/mdr-1adac.html
    http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20140925_666765.html
    http://www.phileweb.com/review/article/201410/01/1370.html

    Xperia phone >> MDR-1ADAC: USB OTG cable > DAC > amp > headphones

    sony29.jpg

    so3.jpg

    Ph4.jpg

     
  11. DanBa
     
    "Geek Out 1000 confirmed working w/o UAPP on Samsung Note 4"
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/5715#post_11058362
     
    Galaxy Note 4 >> USB OTG cable >> LH Labs Geek Out 1000
     
    20141119_121502.jpg
     
     
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/6135#post_11222599
    A list of USB OTG cables:
    http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

     
  12. LajostheHun
    Again, that's knock against this product not the actual concept.Unless you believe that all integrated products are inferior to separates,however that still doesn't make them a gimmick per se, but rather that you have a preference.
     
  13. h1f1add1cted
    Sorry, but the only good side of the this USB DAC/AMP concept is, it is tiny, but only 20 mW output power. Now again this make the product useless in the art of function, because the DAC chip itself makes not the main difference, the amp buffer is important in this case. The concept itself is not new, because we have already other "small" (not tiny as the device we spoke about), but really small same concept devices like USB DAC/AMP Dragonfly 1.2 or DACMagic XS, which provides more power. It would be great if such a tiny USB/DAC could provide 100-150 mW output power, but thats not the case.
     
  14. LajostheHun
    In Your previous post you already said that IEM's don't need much power,which is correct.For this particular phone this is plenty of power or for any type of IEM.Full size cans needs the sort of power you cite and those power modules can be built into the cans themselves, as it has been done already. Again the idea here is to cut done the number of auxiliary equipments without giving up much quality for the convenience.This may not be that product but it can be done.
     
  15. jk47
    There are powered dac/amps such as the ibasso d55
     
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