[UprightMan]

 
 
Mini on one side and micro on another
 
http://store.treoo.com/main/right-angle-mini-usb-to-right-angle-micro-usb-otg-interconnect-cable.html

 
note that I ordered this and within a week it stopped working (metal came loose from plastic).  It's too far away to pay for shipping/warranty (if there is one) so take that into consideration when buying (build quality may not be great)

 

[LajostheHun]

And another Hibymusic update is available. Great bit of software for music lovers on the go.

I downloaded it last night into my Xperia Z3. The playback controls are very sluggish, not just play pause but selecting a track as well. Back to "walkman" app for me.

 

[LajostheHun]

  Yes, please save your money and get real good In-Ears with great sound signature and qualitiy. This tiny built-in USB DAC with a cheap dynamic In-Ear is a good gimmick not more.

The implementation might be low end but the idea is not a gimmick, certainly more intelligent than carry around big heavy DAC/amps, with silly cables all over the place.

 

[LajostheHun]

it's a good idea. In 2030, we will see Sony, Trac, Samsung making these product with the original sound quality and performance of the current DACs.
For now, it won't beat real DACs.

I wish they offer this kind of USB to headphone DAC cable for Shure, Sennheiser, Audeze with quality of Nordost. We may will see this in 2030, not right now.

LOL did you get that out of your crystal ball?

 

[kawaivpc1]

  LOL did you get that out of your crystal ball?

It can happen in 2025.
Trust me. Within ten years, a company will figure out how to make that kind of DAC-integrated headphone with full 32bit 382kHz / DSD support.
Portable DACs let you use very high quality music files. It's an advance in that part, but as far as portability goes, it's degrading convenience of a smartphone.
Someone will fix this.

 

[LajostheHun]

 
It can happen in 2025.
Trust me. Within ten years, a company will figure out how to make that kind of DAC-integrated headphone with full 32bit 382kHz / DSD support.
Portable DACs let you use very high quality music files. It's an advance in that part, but as far as portability goes, it's degrading convenience of a smartphone.
Someone will fix this.

It will happen much sooner than that. Look at the quality of the Dragonfly and such, it's not much bigger than  an inline volume control on headphones right now. If we talking about full size headphones it's already here sort of with Sony's new ADAC headphone. Sony could add DSD and higher bit and sampling rate support today. 

 

[thedude22]

Apple's supposed to be getting rid of the 3.5 jack in their next iphone, instead you'll have to use the lightning jack. I think part of their reasoning is what you guys are discussing. 
 
First time entering this thread, trying to see if there is a consensus budget phone that actually has a good dac. And I mean like pay as you go phone type quality. 

 

[h1f1add1cted]

  The implementation might be low end but the idea is not a gimmick, certainly more intelligent than carry around big heavy DAC/amps, with silly cables all over the place.

No it is a gimmick. The low end In-Ear which is built-in and can't be replaced is finally wasted electronic. The most top tier smartphones have a great DAC section and a very clean audio output, with enough power to drive to most In-Ears properly and deliver very low output impendance to cover sensetive multi BA In-Ears too. A dedicated DAC/AMP makes sense if you need to drive real headphones the need power, but for In-Ears are is that not the case. And this device has 1. not enough power for real cans 2. no option to use a other can, as the built-in one. Go for a audioquest Dragonfly or something if you want a small DAC/AMP whith more power and better connectivity. Just my 2 cents.

 

[bigmcc]

Hi guys
 
First post so be kind!
 
Just got myself the Geek out 1000 and it does sound amazing on my laptop using Tidal
 
My question is has anyone got a Geek and using it with an Android? I currently use a OnePlus phone, and as mentioned previously I would like to use Tidal to stream as I am on the road a lot.
 
Thanks in advance
 
Charlie

 

[DanBa]

Sony MDR-1ADAC DSD-compatible USB headphones:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/733238/awesome-or-gimmick-sonys-mdr-1adac/30#post_11221165
http://www.sony.jp/support/headphone/confirm/mdr-1adac.html
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20140925_666765.html
http://www.phileweb.com/review/article/201410/01/1370.html

Xperia phone >> MDR-1ADAC: USB OTG cable > DAC > amp > headphones

 

[DanBa]

 
My question is has anyone got a Geek and using it with an Android? 
 

 
"Geek Out 1000 confirmed working w/o UAPP on Samsung Note 4"
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/5715#post_11058362
 
Galaxy Note 4 >> USB OTG cable >> LH Labs Geek Out 1000
 

 
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/6135#post_11222599
A list of USB OTG cables:
http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

 

[LajostheHun]

No it is a gimmick. The low end In-Ear which is built-in and can't be replaced is finally wasted electronic. The most top tier smartphones have a great DAC section and a very clean audio output, with enough power to drive to most In-Ears properly and deliver very low output impendance to cover sensetive multi BA In-Ears too. A dedicated DAC/AMP makes sense if you need to drive real headphones the need power, but for In-Ears are is that not the case. And this device has 1. not enough power for real cans 2. no option to use a other can, as the built-in one. Go for a audioquest Dragonfly or something if you want a small DAC/AMP whith more power and better connectivity. Just my 2 cents.

Again, that's knock against this product not the actual concept.Unless you believe that all integrated products are inferior to separates,however that still doesn't make them a gimmick per se, but rather that you have a preference.

 

[h1f1add1cted]

Sorry, but the only good side of the this USB DAC/AMP concept is, it is tiny, but only 20 mW output power. Now again this make the product useless in the art of function, because the DAC chip itself makes not the main difference, the amp buffer is important in this case. The concept itself is not new, because we have already other "small" (not tiny as the device we spoke about), but really small same concept devices like USB DAC/AMP Dragonfly 1.2 or DACMagic XS, which provides more power. It would be great if such a tiny USB/DAC could provide 100-150 mW output power, but thats not the case.

 

[LajostheHun]

In Your previous post you already said that IEM's don't need much power,which is correct.For this particular phone this is plenty of power or for any type of IEM.Full size cans needs the sort of power you cite and those power modules can be built into the cans themselves, as it has been done already. Again the idea here is to cut done the number of auxiliary equipments without giving up much quality for the convenience.This may not be that product but it can be done.

 

[jk47]

There are powered dac/amps such as the ibasso d55