Android phones and USB DACs
Jul 4, 2014 at 3:46 AM Post #5,056 of 9,456

turokrocks

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  I'm confused.  I got that email in my gmail account too.  Does that mean they're adding USB Audio support by patching Android 4.4.x/4.5.x or do they consider the new Android L (aka Android 5.x) as the patch?  For some of the older phones like my Galaxy S3 I don't have any hopes of Samsung releasing Android L for it.  I considerate it fortunate that I even got 4.4.2 since none of the HTC, LG, Sony, Motorola phones released around the same time (early/mid 2012) even got 4.4.

I do think it will be only for the new Android release, but I hope I am mistaken.
 
Jul 4, 2014 at 3:58 AM Post #5,057 of 9,456

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  I'm confused.  I got that email in my gmail account too.  Does that mean they're adding USB Audio support by patching Android 4.4.x/4.5.x or do they consider the new Android L (aka Android 5.x) as the patch?  For some of the older phones like my Galaxy S3 I don't have any hopes of Samsung releasing Android L for it.  I considerate it fortunate that I even got 4.4.2 since none of the HTC, LG, Sony, Motorola phones released around the same time (early/mid 2012) even got 4.4.

 
All it means is that the request has been fulfilled and will be patched in the next source code. 
 
Jul 5, 2014 at 8:07 AM Post #5,058 of 9,456

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The Google Android Audio team is aware of the existence of the list of USB DAC reportedly interworking or not interworking with the Nexus 5 / 7 running on Android L: I contacted one of them
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/5010#post_10669282
 
I think "dmesg" and " logcat" log files in case of non-interworking should also be provided.
These log files will help them to identify the interworking problems.
 
Knowing the descriptors of the currently non-compatible USB DAC can also speed the development of a code fix.
 
 
About "dmesg":
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/675#post_8824757
 
About "logcat":
http://developer.android.com/tools/help/logcat.html
 
About (UAC 1.0) USB DAC descriptor viewer:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/2025#post_9320708
http://goo.gl/pYJbTu
 
 
Jul 6, 2014 at 12:33 PM Post #5,059 of 9,456

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FINALLY!
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And thanks to all who made it possible, specially DanBa (which made me aware of the USB Audio cappabilities of Android devices by reading his list of standard USB DACs...) 
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Jul 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM Post #5,060 of 9,456

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  If you could do that it would be very much appreciated!

 
Hi mate,
 
I tried the AK100 II as DAC on my Galaxy S5 ... No Go!
 
The AK100 is not recognized by the Galaxy S5 in any way.
I tried with USB Audio Tester, it does not even see the AK100 II, so .... sorry to say, No Go as an Android DAC.
On PC there is a driver needed, so I suppose that on Android some custom software would be needed as well.
 
 
PS: Sound of the AK100 II is fantastic.
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Have a great day,
 
Casper.
 
Jul 6, 2014 at 8:28 PM Post #5,061 of 9,456

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Hi mate,
 
I tried the AK100 II as DAC on my Galaxy S5 ... No Go!
 
The AK100 is not recognized by the Galaxy S5 in any way.
I tried with USB Audio Tester, it does not even see the AK100 II, so .... sorry to say, No Go as an Android DAC.
On PC there is a driver needed, so I suppose that on Android some custom software would be needed as well.
 
 
PS: Sound of the AK100 II is fantastic.
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Have a great day,
 
Casper.

Thanks for trying mate! I actually bit the bullet and bought the 120ii! putting music on it right now! I figure if i can afford to buy a 2k dap and have 1.2k iems i can afford to buy music... hahaha
 
Jul 7, 2014 at 1:10 AM Post #5,062 of 9,456

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  Thanks for trying mate! I actually bit the bullet and bought the 120ii! putting music on it right now! I figure if i can afford to buy a 2k dap and have 1.2k iems i can afford to buy music... hahaha

 
 
Congrats ...     :)
 
So ..... what do you think of it?
 
Jul 7, 2014 at 1:41 AM Post #5,063 of 9,456

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Congrats ...     :)
 
So ..... what do you think of it?

Both impressed and underwhelmed at the same time to be honest. But to be fair ive used it for under 5 minutes, My music collection is a mess atm so im gonna need to get it up to scratch copy it over and give it a good run, maybe tonight? 
 
Jul 7, 2014 at 10:21 AM Post #5,064 of 9,456

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Well-praised review of "Resonessence Herus + Dell Venue 7 / HTC One + USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP)":
http://everythingaudionetwork.blogspot.fr/2014/06/audiophile-review-resonessence-heru-dac.html
 
"... audiophile playback ... the sound quality via the tablet was as good through the Herus as the Macbook Pro and Audirvana playback, Clean, quiet, smooth and plenty of detail, especially for the money...."
 

 
Jul 8, 2014 at 12:33 PM Post #5,067 of 9,456

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  Anyone found a micro B (with OTG) male to mini B male any cheaper than the below?  (I assume this is the type of cord I need to connect DAP to Android with one cord)?
 
http://forzaaudioworks.com/en/product.php?id_product=55

 
Look for "Fiio L15" OTG cable, should be ~$10USD.  It's not a fancy hand made cable using Fairy Dust(tm) enchanted wires but it works on my E07k/E17 & Galaxy S3 & N7-2013(CM11). 
 
Jul 8, 2014 at 9:59 PM Post #5,069 of 9,456

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I recently got the Vivo Xplay 3S with the ESS9018KM2 and OPA2604 built in. It also has DTS-X headphone in the video player. Yes, it sounds amazing, better than any other DAC/AMP combo I've tried so far.
 
I extracted the DTS, video, and music app. See if you can install these, or install them with root explorer to the /system/app folder.
 
If it works, everyone can use DTS-X for movies, or BBE/SRS for audio.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n82zz6b6j284lh3/Vivo.zip
 
Jul 9, 2014 at 12:56 AM Post #5,070 of 9,456

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I recently got the Vivo Xplay 3S with the ESS9018KM2 and OPA2604 built in. It also has DTS-X headphone in the video player. Yes, it sounds amazing, better than any other DAC/AMP combo I've tried so far.

I extracted the DTS, video, and music app. See if you can install these, or install them with root explorer to the /system/app folder.

If it works, everyone can use DTS-X for movies, or BBE/SRS for audio.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n82zz6b6j284lh3/Vivo.zip


No dice on Moto G.

DTS service FC loop and the other apps aren't in the app drawer.
 

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