[echineko]

  I was only giving you some info pertaining the demo of the WA6SE that you made mentioned

Haha, got it, thanks

 

[Gibsonmac]

I seem to like high gain. There's either a slight difference, or a placebo effect, but I definitely prefer this sound compared to previously. Will mess about with it more over the week, but for now I think I've found what works for me

I always use high-gain on the Lyr with planars, they like power. Play around with tubes, the Lyr is really responsive to tube rolling.

I just told you what I do. I can back it up with information and stats. What will you say besides the fact that you're an "audiophile" and use the information on this website as your own personal Bible.

As to Mr. 'THE AUTHORITY' of sound, there is so much more to it then numbers on a spec sheet. There is a reason why the HE-6 sounds like complete dog **** on some amps that *should be able to drive them to perfection according to the numbers, yet sounds like pure bliss on others. Not to mention everyone looks for different things in what they want out of their gear, sound quality differs from amp to amp. Some people love their LCD2 with a simple O2, some people love the Lyr2, others swear by the Taurus mkII. Guess what, they all sound different, they all bring something different to the table, I've had them all in my home, I've put them head to head, and I chose the WA6SE. I used this site to narrow the selection down from, every headphone amp ever made, to 5 that are generally thought to pair well; then I bought or rented them and decided what I liked the best. As a 20 year studio musician, who has spent a fair amount of time behind the board and with pro-tools, I'm fairly confident I'm able to figure out my own listening preferences.

Maybe it all sounds the same to you because your ears are not the most discerning, or maybe it's just that YOUR listening preferences tell YOU the NFB is a good match. Because guess what, we all hear things a little differently and have sensitivities to different frequencies.

 

[LancerFIN]

I didn't say NFB-15 was bad. It's good for the money. Spending more of course gets you better gear. I was happy when I upgraded from NFB-15 to Gustard H10.

 

[Vosegus]

Thank you guys for the answers about my NFB15
I actually own it already and tested the LCD2 with it, and I liked the sound very much as a matter of fact.
The price was just right for me, for this powerfull amp and a dac...300$..its doesnt get any better than that. I really wanted the Lyr2, but I was on budget..and I simply cant see myself shell out more money on an amp than on my headphones...

 

[White Lotus]

Spending more of course gets you better gear.

 
I would be wary of using this as a rule of thumb!

 

[LancerFIN]

I would be wary of using this as a rule of thumb!

More expensive isn't always better is true. That's why forums like this are good. We already know the products where price and performance are good.

Try using high gain on NFB-15. It makes notable difference in sound quality. Mostly in subbass. Sound gets loud really quick but the Alps volume pot is good. No problem with channel imbalance.

 

[398698]

I always use high-gain on the Lyr with planars, they like power. Play around with tubes, the Lyr is really responsive to tube rolling.
As to Mr. 'THE AUTHORITY' of sound, there is so much more to it then numbers on a spec sheet. There is a reason why the HE-6 sounds like complete dog **** on some amps that *should be able to drive them to perfection according to the numbers, yet sounds like pure bliss on others. Not to mention everyone looks for different things in what they want out of their gear, sound quality differs from amp to amp. Some people love their LCD2 with a simple O2, some people love the Lyr2, others swear by the Taurus mkII. Guess what, they all sound different, they all bring something different to the table, I've had them all in my home, I've put them head to head, and I chose the WA6SE. I used this site to narrow the selection down from, every headphone amp ever made, to 5 that are generally thought to pair well; then I bought or rented them and decided what I liked the best. As a 20 year studio musician, who has spent a fair amount of time behind the board and with pro-tools, I'm fairly confident I'm able to figure out my own listening preferences.

Maybe it all sounds the same to you because your ears are not the most discerning, or maybe it's just that YOUR listening preferences tell YOU the NFB is a good match. Because guess what, we all hear things a little differently and have sensitivities to different frequencies.

Tldr: "I'm wrong and still don't know anything about high fidelity."

 

[CanadianMaestro]

1. Trust your ears. Not the specs. Some great-sounding gear have avg specs on paper. And vice versa. Audition when possible.
2. Synergy is key.
3. Very little correlation exists between price and auditory satisfaction.
4. Law of diminishing returns. Once you get near the top of the food chain, every $ spent gets you less back in net performance boost.
 
cheers

 

[Gibsonmac]

1. Trust your ears. Not the specs. Some great-sounding gear have avg specs on paper. And vice versa. Audition when possible.
2. Synergy is key.
3. Very little correlation exists between price and auditory satisfaction.
4. Law of diminishing returns. Once you get near the top of the food chain, every $ spent gets you less back in net performance boost.

cheers

So very true. Especially with diminishing returns... Just because something costs twice as much, doesn't mean it's twice as good(though sometimes it can). When I auditioned A/B the LCD2 and LCD3 through The Cable Co. lending library, I honest to God preferred the LCD2 with my setup, just better synergy to my ears, and the LCD2 costs half as much as the 3. It's all so subjective anyway, ymmv and all that.

 

[CanadianMaestro]

So very true. Especially with diminishing returns... Just because something costs twice as much, doesn't mean it's twice as good(though sometimes it can). When I auditioned the LCD2 and LCD3 through The Cable Co. lending library, I honest to God preferred the LCD2 with my setup, just better synergy to my ears, and the LCD2 costs half as much as the 3. It's all so subjective anyway, ymmv and all that.

+1.  I did not like the LCD-3, and its price vs. LCD-2.2 exemplifies the Law of DR.

 

[marcan]

 
+1.  I did not like the LCD-3, and its price vs. LCD-2.2 exemplifies the Law of DR.

+1

 

[DDDamian]

 
+1.  I did not like the LCD-3, and its price vs. LCD-2.2 exemplifies the Law of DR.

@mikoss felt the same way. So glad I didn't pony-up the extra grand. Ofc there'll be a ton of dissenters - Tyll (himself!) claims the 3 does just about everything better.

 

[CanadianMaestro]

  @mikoss felt the same way. So glad I didn't pony-up the extra grand. Ofc there'll be a ton of dissenters - Tyll (himself!) claims the 3 does just about everything better.

If I remember right, Tyll also said that, if LCD-3 did not exist, he still would be quite content to live with the LCD-2 as a flagship-calibre HP. Hinting perhaps that the diff he heard may not be substantial to warrant the diff in moola back then.

 

[DDDamian]

 
If I remember right, Tyll also said that, if LCD-3 did not exist, he still would be quite content to live with the LCD-2 as a flagship-calibre HP. Hinting perhaps that the diff he heard may not be substantial to warrant the diff in moola back then.

Quite right. Sounds like we're both happy with the LCD-2. IMO they're desert-island calibre.

 

[Vosegus]

I really liked the synergy between the NFB15 and the LCD2. Maybe, in retro perspective, I would get a NFB11 but im really satisfied with my current setup ^_^