Salvatore
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I think Chicolom is on point! Awesome read which pretty much sums everything up.
I'm pretty sure all K701's have had angled pads from day one.
That said, Mine are angled as well.
They look like it to me. Hard to tell from the photos, since the thicker part would be at the back, and there's not a good shot comparing it to the front. But they look pretty thick in the back to me.
Q701: Faster sounding, more air, cleaner separation, soundstage is more laid-back, greater impression of depth and distance in the soundstage.
K702 65:
More "Musical", lush, smoother, more body, slightly darker treble, less air, soundstage gives impression of being more forward and intimate.
As was ruled out earlier in the thread, the changes aren't just limited to bass, nor are they just limited to bass mids and treble. I also detect some soundstage changes as well.
Whats the correct position of the pads, well, lets say, stock placing. My are like thick up and thin down, like this |/ \|
THX
My first thoughts after hearing the soundstage were, "OK, so the bass isn't "free." Those flatter non-angled pads are compressing the soundstage." I'm not 100% positive though, because I heard the anniversaries throw a couple sounds out pretty far, at a similar distance as the Q701. So now I'm running some more tests to try and further disect the soundstage differences to see how much of the soundstage differences come from a byproduct of the weightier sound, and how much of it comes from actual having flatter pads and what role they are playing.
I don't want to conflate a weightier sound with a smaller soundstage, because that's the impression you get at first listen (similar to how some people say the Q701 soundstage is smaller than older x70x). Possibly the soundstage sizes are similar, but the 65s have more sound trying to fill up the same space (soundstage size) or even slightly smaller, which means you can't have as clear separation as some sounds start to bump into each other.
Or possibly the flatter pads are indeed a bit detrimental to the soundstage, and pan the sounds harder to the sides and decrease the depth. Still working on analyzing that. The flattest part of the Q701 pad is just about the same size as the entire anniversary pad.
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AKG should hurry up and get a stock of these pads shipped to the USA! It's taking them forever.
Just got email from Frank/AKG. He's asking for an update from Vienna, but thinks another 2-3 weeks! I'll post more when he gets back to me.
Yeah i've had them ordered at the end of January I believe. Last week they told me that they'd probably be in stock the first week of March.
I'm glad they at least decided to offer replacement pads. It would be funny to have a $400-$500 headphone with no replacement pads made for it. Now I have to wonder how long the pads will be made...
Someone should send their pair in to Tyll (at Inner Fidelity) for measurements. I bet he'll say they sound the same as the K702Only kidding...(I think)
I would laugh if they measured the same as the Q701. I actually think headphones can sound very very different yet have the same measurements.