alpha80
500+ Head-Fier
Never tried the K612, but remember loving the K601 years ago. great phones.
But on the flip side, it doesn't "hit" the way I like bass to hit. Was listening to this track here
super disappointing. These headphones just don't do this track justice on any level.
Its like the bass is very controlled, but is lacking body, warmth, and "character, or life", if that makes any sense. I think a tube amp for this may be something I'd like, as from what I've been reading they seem to add these type of characteristics. My only worry is how that would affect the musicality of bass guitars.
But on the flip side, it doesn't "hit" the way I like bass to hit. Was listening to this track here
super disappointing. These headphones just don't do this track justice on any level.
Its like the bass is very controlled, but is lacking body, warmth, and "character, or life", if that makes any sense. I think a tube amp for this may be something I'd like, as from what I've been reading they seem to add these type of characteristics. My only worry is how that would affect the musicality of bass guitars.
Its like the bass is very controlled, but is lacking body, warmth, and "character, or life", if that makes any sense. I think a tube amp for this may be something I'd like, as from what I've been reading they seem to add these type of characteristics. My only worry is how that would affect the musicality of bass guitars.
youtube version of that track sounds very compressed to me. I managed to listen some of the Grand Agent's tracks on his soundcloud channel, every track sounds fantastic with 612, I don't find it lacking warmth with my setup... with some systems with bad synergy this can sounds too thin and can emphasize the 2k spike and can sounds dry, sometimes you might feel like lacking the warmth, body due to the neutral nature of the headphone. may be try your 612 with a tube setup if you want more warmth..
I agree with appsmarsterx, had a listen on my system with the K601 and the bass sounded fine. I think it might be due to the balance of the track, making you think you need to turn it down too much to avoid the high end, but if you do you'll lose the punch of the bass. The Barrington Levy track, on the other hand, is more heavily tipped towards the bass (to me it seems a little sloppy), so you can hear it more easily at a lower volume.
I personally love the K601's bass. As appsmarsterx mentioned, it's accurate, textured, and extends well. Give it a good recording and you get both punch and nuance. Give it a bad recording and it can lack oomph, but I'd rather that than have a sloppy, boomy, overemphasised bass which is what a lot of headphones will give you.
An OTL tube amp with a higher output impedance will give a ton of air which may or may not be what you're looking for. The reduced damping factor can also give the bass a different flavor which you may like better with some music.
If you're into DIY and like the Idea of tubes, the Bottlehead Crack would be a good start. Even with the extra air, it certainly takes the edge off of my K601s compared to something dead neutral like my Objective2.
You can also get most of the difference with a simple impedance adapter, which is basically just a short extension cable with some inline resistors. It's best to DIY that kind of thing so you dial it in to your exact preferences.
I find myself listening to all kindsa music I just usually don't listen to just to appreciate the vocals.
Funny you mention this, I'm actually very intrigued by DIY amp kits. I was looking at project starlight, and others from garage1217, from the sound of it (and I'm pretty ignorant about tube amps, so forgive me if I'm wrong about something) seems very customizable, which is something that appeals to me.
I'm months away from being able to make a purchase like that tho, but yea I been doing some reading up on it.
honestly I don't listen to this just to appreciate vocals, I often listen to wide variety of music with 612.. this is a very technically capable all rounder which can do brilliantly in most genres. try the track 1 and 2 in my earlier post which doesn't involve any vocals.
just give yourself some time to adjust to the neutral sound signature.
If you're already inclined to DIY then impedance adapters may be a good start. A jack, a plug, and a few resistors won't cost you too much. You can experiment and find a value you like.