$200 For Eletronic Music
Oct 20, 2011 at 12:59 AM Post #31 of 41
the beyer 770 pro 80s are great for anything electronic
 
may want to look into a little amp.  probably won't need a lot maybe a fiio e11 or something
 
Oct 20, 2011 at 1:11 AM Post #32 of 41
To the OP,
 
I listen to electronic music very often, and the first thing I'd want to know is -
do you want to listen on open or closed headphones?
 
I generally prefer listening to this genre on closed headphones because
it puts me in a place where I do not want to be interrupted by any ambient noise.
 
Also, I think that closed headphones go with the essential nature of the music.
 
With that said, though, in a very quiet environment good open headphones reveal
a dimensionality to electronic music that's almost impossible to achieve with
closed headphones.
 
 
I recommend the ATH-M50's as a start.
 
Excellent sound, reasonable price, very comfortable, good isolation, well made, and very resalable when/if you decide to change.
 
Coincidentally, I spent much of today listening to electronic music on my ATH-M50's
and Ultrasone HFI-780's.
 
BTW, while I really like the Senn HD I II and listen to mine quite a bit, I wouldn't recommend them
over the ATH-M50's for electronica because they don't project the same depth and bottom end. 
 
 
 
Oct 20, 2011 at 1:30 AM Post #33 of 41
am i the only person who doesn't understand all of the m50 770 pro 80 comparisons?  i see it all the time.
But I think they sound nothing alike.
 
beyers are fairly clear/detailed with lopsided freq response
m50s are more linear and flat but with less clarity/detail.
beyers are big BIG deep bass 
m50s are slightly above avg bass
beyers need a good amount of power
m50s are easy to drive
beyers are comfy as hell
m50s are here nor there on comfort
 
 
i guess they're both black
with whitesh writing
and cost around 150$
 
 
 
Oct 20, 2011 at 11:30 AM Post #34 of 41
There are comparisons between M50 770 and HFI-580's.  Here's the jist of my research.  I've personally owned the M50 and 580.
 
Clarity/detail: 580 > 770 > M50
Bass quality: 580 > M50 > 770
Bass Quantity: 770 > 580 > M50
Mids: 580 > M50 > 770
Highs: 580 > M50 > 770
Soundstage: 580 > 770 > M50
Comfort: 770 > M50 > 580
Efficiency (ampless): 580 > M50 > 770

Beyers have the harshest curve, bass can be bloated, mids recessed and have significantly more simbilance than the 580 or M50's.
M50s are good all around, however, not as detailed and a more neutral sound (they are studio monitors)
 
Quote:
am i the only person who doesn't understand all of the m50 770 pro 80 comparisons?  i see it all the time.
But I think they sound nothing alike.
 
beyers are fairly clear/detailed with lopsided freq response
m50s are more linear and flat but with less clarity/detail.
beyers are big BIG deep bass 
m50s are slightly above avg bass
beyers need a good amount of power
m50s are easy to drive
beyers are comfy as hell
m50s are here nor there on comfort
 
 
i guess they're both black
with whitesh writing
and cost around 150$
 
 



 
 
Oct 20, 2011 at 10:11 PM Post #35 of 41


Quote:
There are comparisons between M50 770 and HFI-580's.  Here's the jist of my research.  I've personally owned the M50 and 580.
 
Clarity/detail: 580 > 770 > M50
Bass quality: 580 > M50 > 770
Bass Quantity: 770 > 580 > M50
Mids: 580 > M50 > 770
Highs: 580 > M50 > 770
Soundstage: 580 > 770 > M50
Comfort: 770 > M50 > 580
Efficiency (ampless): 580 > M50 > 770
Beyers have the harshest curve, bass can be bloated, mids recessed and have significantly more simbilance than the 580 or M50's.
M50s are good all around, however, not as detailed and a more neutral sound (they are studio monitors)
 
 

have you ever listened to the 770?
 
 
 
Oct 21, 2011 at 12:59 PM Post #36 of 41
Only demo'ed them at a store, but they had HFI 780's and M50s running right next to them and to me, they had the harshest highs (I find 780's to be harsh too).  Not a true review, however, those findings are easily verified by the numerous 770 vs /580/m50/etc threads on these boards.
 
Quote:
have you ever listened to the 770? 
 



 
 
Oct 21, 2011 at 7:17 PM Post #37 of 41
nothing harsh about the 770 pro 80s highs.
in fact i think the m50s highs are more harsh.
and i've owned both.
 
could you be confusing the 80 ohm version with a 250 ohm or premium?
because those do have much a  more present high end
 
Oct 21, 2011 at 8:43 PM Post #38 of 41


Quote:
nothing harsh about the 770 pro 80s highs.
in fact i think the m50s highs are more harsh.
and i've owned both.
 
could you be confusing the 80 ohm version with a 250 ohm or premium?
because those do have much a  more present high end



woah, opinions. Actually, beyers are WORLD RENOWN for their harsh sibilance and u curves, except with the dt880 600ohm which is neutral on paper, but still has lots of sibilance. 
 
If a normal balanced headphone looks like this (M50 for example
 
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then the dt 880s are like this
 
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Oct 21, 2011 at 8:56 PM Post #39 of 41
I also didn't find the highs on the DT770 pro 80ohm to be too exaggerated.  The DT990 premium on the other hand....
 
Oct 21, 2011 at 9:15 PM Post #40 of 41
Quote:
woah, opinions. Actually, beyers are WORLD RENOWN for their harsh sibilance and u curves, except with the dt880 600ohm which is neutral on paper, but still has lots of sibilance. 
 


The 880s are harsh if it's in the recording, they're neutral and pretty resolving so they'll expose all the flaws. Phones like the DT990 are exaggerated and of course will sound sibilant more often.
 
I listen to electronica on my 880s, sounds fantastic!
 
Oct 21, 2011 at 11:07 PM Post #41 of 41


Quote:
woah, opinions. Actually, beyers are WORLD RENOWN for their harsh sibilance and u curves, except with the dt880 600ohm which is neutral on paper, but still has lots of sibilance. 
 
 



you are right, they are known for their highs.  ive got several.  but the 770 pro 80s to me, do not have the harsh highs that you are speaking of.  neither pair ive owned over the years did.  However the 770 premium 32's and 250s do have the typical beyer highs.  This is why i asked if it was possible he had one of those models in mind when he mentioned it.  it could also be due to different sources and equipment. hell or even different ears.
 
and obviously an opinion here as well. didn't figure i had to say that in my previous post since the whole thing is subjective. 
 

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