Quote:   If I recall, the 10 cable is just a bit thicker than the 10vi.  They use the same sockets though.

Quote: Have you tried another set of ear/headphones on the same songs?  If there's no buzzing with other earphones, than you have a defective TF10.  I heard a weird buzz off of one song I bought from Google Music.  That got me a bit worried briefly until I checked with another set of...

*Need a simple IEM with microphone*   I have a pair of InEarz custom re-molded TF10vi's that I'm happy with.  But when I had them remolded, I decided to use UE custom sockets instead of TF10 sockets, hence I no longer have the microphone on these.  I'd also prefer to keep these for plane...

Quote:   Play a song with good bass.  When you push them in (slightly), does the bass get better?  If so, then you're probably not getting a good seal.  

  Quote:   Swap the cables and see if that changes things.  If it does then it's surely the cable.  Logitech will send you a new cable.  They may try to send you a new TF10, but if it's not the earphone, then you maybe better off asking for just the cable.  I've heard there's a wait for...

  Quote:   Yes, the tf-10 and tf10vi cable use the same sockets.  Dirty little secret..though i guess it's not really a secret at this point.  Buy a TF10, get a $30 vi cable, and now you have a tf10vi plus a spare cable. tadaaaa

Lots of people have done reshells of their TF10s, myself included.  I was in the same boat, not happy with the fit in my ear.  Little bit of pain, constant adjustment, seal issues, absolutely useless at the gym.  I tried over 10 different tips.  After reshelling, they're awesome.  Fit is great...

Quote: My clear UE custom cable turned green in about 3 months and I barely used them. 

And another update....so what I described in my original post is definitely not normal, as others have pointed out.  I went to a hearing aid specialist who told me what needed to be adjusted.  After the adjustment, they came back with a much better fit.  I was able to run on a treadmill without...

1) $90 2) I think fit issues are common as there's so much variability.  But color and finish should not be.  There's several other companies that do it but most are more expensive. Stock means not previously reshelled/customized.  I'm guessing it's easier to break apart a stock IEM vs...

Well they agreed that the color and finish weren't what I asked for the first two times, so I didn't have to pay for anything.

Ok this is going to be a long post, but there was a call for pics so I'll oblige with several.  It also reflects a long journey which started in Nov.  I'm not going to get into the exact dates, but each time has taken 3-4 weeks and it took 3 times to get it right...well sorta.   Here are the...

So after waiting 4 weeks for my IEMS (first time took 3 weeks) ...  I'm disappointed to say that they're wrong...again.  This time, they put in a design that I didn't ask for.  As a matter of fact, I didn't ask for any design.  Did someone else on here ask for these?  Time to call Kaysen again...

They call it a SN, but it's more like a batch number or something that tells the year in which they're made, hence warrantied.

Much more comfortable than IEMs jammed into your ear canal since they don't sit as deep.

USPS priority envelope...even cheaper :)

Quote:   I know this is a bit off topic, but coincidentally I just came across this article: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-16/deaths-of-headphone-wearing-pedestrians-increase-study-finds.html    

Quote: Quote: yes and yes.  I normally don't have a good seal from the TF10s and had to adjust anyways, but have to do it too often when running.  I switched to customs.  I still can't jog but adjusting less.  Also, my customs need to be slightly modified.  

Quote: isolation is good if you can get a good seal.  I wear them on planes all the time and its great at blocking out babies crying and reducing engine noise.  But I'd temper your expectations about running.  I can't keep a good seal when running and have to constantly adjust.

If your friend bought it for you, then he may need to help you with any warranty claims.   When I submitted a warranty issue, they asked me for my proof of purchase.  I sent them a PDF of my Amazon invoice.

Quote: That seems silly to me as there are many options to replace the cable...but ok.   As for the original question, I heard there was a change to the TF10 (not TF10vi) cable either last year or the year before from a straight jack to an L jack.  Maybe that has helped them from...

Quote: You can either buy their cable (Fisher) which I think is $30.  Or provide your own cable.  If you use the stock TF10 cables, then they use the existing sockets.  If you have a standard socket cable like Westone, UE Custom, etc... then its the same socket as the Fishers.  And if...

So just as an update, I used the non-toxic Piggy Paint I mentioned above, put on a few layers and i definitely notice a BIG difference with the bass.  Now there's a very deep thump that I expected.  Also, when I push them with my fingers (slightly), I don't hear any difference.  Now...I just...

Quote: maybe you should've pushed back...or gotten up and left.  I printed my InEarz instructions and showed it to them first.

Quote: I use the UE case.  I have custom reshells so I don't need tips.  But even when I had stock TF10s, I don't need to carry tips around with me.  If I lose a tip or it breaks, I can wait the few hours til I get home.