Sep 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM Post #61 of 87
 
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Why do you think that?  I have the preamp set below the total gain output.  The clipping is the sound of the drivers over extending (you know the popping sound when you push them hard) and not the typical amp distortion people are familiar with.  I know the difference.  I am headphone newb but I've been fooling around with car/home/club audio systems since I was a kid.
 
Throw up the low freqs very high on an EQ and lower the preamp.  Then turn up the volume and you will get your drivers popping too.  The Ultrasone drivers are too tight.  I'm doing the exact same setup on these JVC and they are handling it like a champ.  My old ATH-AD700s handled it like a champ too.


I drove the low end extremely hard when I had them. Maximum Mach3bass and BBE setting on my Cowon S9 at the time. Never did I hear this popping you're referring to. Either the headphones are damaged or your amplifier is clipping due to compensating for the changes in your EQ.
 
 
Sep 14, 2011 at 6:19 PM Post #62 of 87
I'm not familiar with that amp, but what is "extremely hard"?  As you've seen from my posting I'm pushing the lower freqs over 24dB+ which is more than most players will do.  Most max out at 12dB.  That is a huge difference.  Not too mention that while the AUNE is no 600$ amp, it has a lot more power to help drive those boosted freqs than a portable amp does.
 
For reference I've had Beyer DT990s, Ultrasone 680s, and AKGs do the same thing.  And even using different amps.  They all pop when you push them hard.  That's how speakers work.  The key is finding speakers that are strong enough/more flexible to play harder and louder before giving out.  There is nothing wrong the with headphones, they are not blown, I am not clipping my amp.
 
I know exactly what I'm talking about.  I take it you've just never pushed speakers or headphones hard enough to learn for yourself.   It's not rocket science....
 
That also isn't the point of this thread.  I posted that info to help show how there actually is some physical break-in involved with Ultrasone cans I was able to push them to their limits at 50% then a few days later I was able to go much louder and they were able to take the heat.
 
Enough about the amp.
 
Sep 14, 2011 at 6:34 PM Post #64 of 87
I've EQd up to 20db on the 990s before, and have never heard any popping.  Maybe you listen at extremely high volumes compared to me though, and I just havn't pushed my 990s harder than intended, I don't know.  Maybe that extra 4db of EQ makes all the difference too.
 
Sep 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM Post #66 of 87


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I don't think he's willing to spend 2,000 dollars on LA2000.


 
Noteworthy headphones indeed.  2Gs though is half the cost of a great car system, and with that kind of cash I'd rather use it on that, personally.  :)
 
Sep 14, 2011 at 6:44 PM Post #67 of 87
On a curious note, how much DB of bass boost does it take to make the AD700s have 'more louder slamming bass' than any of the other headphones you've auditioned?
 
Edit nvm you said A700.
 
Sep 14, 2011 at 7:05 PM Post #68 of 87


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On a curious note, how much DB of bass boost does it take to make the AD700s have 'more louder slamming bass' than any of the other headphones you've auditioned?
 
Edit nvm you said A700.



I have it saved on my PC at home, I can post it later for you.  It is the A700s.  If you've got a solid amp and using these settings, you will be blown away.  :)
 
Sep 14, 2011 at 7:21 PM Post #69 of 87
The Ultrasone Pro 900 are full of bass and if you do not like those I would go with the Sony xb-500. In my opinion they have more bass than the xb-700 and xb-1000 as the 700`s are more balanced and the 1000`s are better for electronic music as it does not have as much punch. These headphones have a lot more punch amped too.
 
Sep 15, 2011 at 5:36 AM Post #70 of 87
Hey Waverider69

After reading your previous posts I wanted to warn you if you do get AKG K181's they will handle gobs of power and be beyond stupid loud still sounding great. I blew an eardrum with these they can go that loud! now I have to wait 8 weeks til I can enjoy both of the again. Life in mono is only half as good!
 
Sep 15, 2011 at 12:21 PM Post #74 of 87
Need the ultimate recipé for bass output so that it becomes a hazard to listen to? You've been warned, this is probably the ultimate bass quantity one can get out of a headphone :P
 
Setup:
 
Headphone: Sony MDR-XB500
Source: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy (Audigy 2 ZS / Audigy 4 series recommended) with kX Audio drivers
Amp: ZO Personal Subwoofer with max contour level setting
 
kX Audio Settings:
 

Full size picture http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8797/unledkrx.jpg
 
I'm even scared of what this would sound like, I mean I have this setup and could try see what it sounds like but I'd rather not... I mean +15dB bass boost from the headphone themselves, maybe +12~15dB or something of ZO + 36dB bass boost from the EQ settings (well more like 72dB since rest of the range was decreased by -12dB)

 
Sep 15, 2011 at 2:47 PM Post #75 of 87
I noticed that 2 members showed EQ settings in this thread. If you are open to suggestions, try this:

1. start with a flat setting
2. find the most harsh treble and midrange sliders by moving each one up and down until you find the particularly unpleasant tones
3. trim those
4. raising the volume from here will give a fuller bass boost

Parametric EQs are faster, easier, and typically more precise than graphic EQs, but both are manageable. When EQing a system (home theater, stage, personal audio, etc.), trimming the harsh frequencies will yield a fuller sound than boosting, overdriving, and thinning-out the target tone.
 

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