[GearMe]

+1 to Trilogy...wore that album out!

 

[atomicbob]

   
+1000  A rough year for somebody my age (59).  Many of my icons.  ELP was a great band, very talented and progressive.  I still think "Trilogy" is one of the best albums ever.

Take a Pebble - a Greg Lake composition - one of my all time favorites from the rock genre.

 

[artur9]

Spent a few fun hours with atomicbob. Goal -- find differences feeding Yggy via two Dante Ethernet boxes -- Rednet16 or Atterotech unDaes-O.

...
Result of this test: we enjoyed the listening, but struggled mightily a/b wise, failing to nail down any consistent differences between these two Dante boxes. 

Awesome news.  My preamp converts everything to 96Khz so I convert everything to that anyway with SoX.  Sounds like the unDaes-O is all I need.  Well, and Linux VSC.
 
Thanks to you and @atomicbob. 

 

[rtaylor76]

I have a question for you guys in this thread/group...

After acquiring a lot of hi-fi gear this year and experiencing very accurate sound from a great setup including a multibit DAC, I have noticed some kind of phenomenon that I never experienced with other setups..... I find that listening to my high fidelity setup makes my brain incredibly relaxed. It is like it un-kinks things up there. I swear it must be messing with my brainwaves or something. And it makes me tired.

And when I mean tired, I don't mean like audio fatigue, I mean physically tired, like a shot of melatonin. Now I know what audio fatigue is. I have spent many hours in the recording studio either in recording sessions or mix sessions listening to those Yamaha NS-10M's that are the speaker equivalent to industrial toilet paper (like sandpaper for your ears). I know the effects of ear fatigue make your ears tired and you want to put down the headphones. You want to turn everything off...you want silence. I do remember studying ear fatigue and I understand our brain has to work overtime to compensate and fill in the gaps that are missing. For instance, if there is little or no bass, our brain inserts it in there.

What I am speaking about is more about just being so close to the music we love and it just brings us to a place of absolute audio pleasure, we are able to relax our brain. Like our brain doesn't have to fill in any gaps and can just relax.

Sorry if my post sounds drug induced, I just want to see if anyone else gets physically tired like me when listening to a hi-fi setup?

 

[bosiemoncrieff]

Sounds like a question for Mike's new PhD, is she on HF?

 

[artur9]

  Sounds like a question for Mike's new PhD, is she on HF?

Let her finish Manhattan first, please.  I'm dying to know what it is and what it does.  Then, instead of PCB porn, maybe she can give us some higher math porn.  I might even be tempted to fire up the LaTex for that...

 

[Baldr]

Well, that is exactly what much of her pre and post-doc research examined.  I am a bit behind the 8-Ball time wise at the moment, but promise to address this soon.

 

[nedifer]

[Edited...] 
 
Sorry, more appropriately posted here

 

[45longcolt]

I find that listening to my high fidelity setup makes my brain incredibly relaxed. It is like it un-kinks things up there. I swear it must be messing with my brainwaves or something. And it makes me tired.

And when I mean tired, I don't mean like audio fatigue, I mean physically tired, like a shot of melatonin.

First time I fired up Ygg, immediately noticed that the last bit of digital haze had disappeared and the music was flowing in a much more organic way. My shoulders relaxed. Small wonder that music should have the same effect on the brain. You'll observe the same phenomenon in small humans - it's called a lullaby.
 
For us more discerning (and uptight) adults, the effect can be spoiled by bad reproduction - either gross as with those awful speakers, or so subtle that we don't consciously notice it. Remove the pollution, and the brain and body can do what they want to do.
 
It's a pleasant contradiction - how music done well can be both exciting and relaxing at the same time.
 
Thanks, Mike and Jason.

 

[JohnnyCanuck]

I have a question for you guys in this thread/group...

After acquiring a lot of hi-fi gear this year and experiencing very accurate sound from a great setup including a multibit DAC, I have noticed some kind of phenomenon that I never experienced with other setups..... I find that listening to my high fidelity setup makes my brain incredibly relaxed. It is like it un-kinks things up there. I swear it must be messing with my brainwaves or something. And it makes me tired.

And when I mean tired, I don't mean like audio fatigue, I mean physically tired, like a shot of melatonin. Now I know what audio fatigue is. I have spent many hours in the recording studio either in recording sessions or mix sessions listening to those Yamaha NS-10M's that are the speaker equivalent to industrial toilet paper (like sandpaper for your ears). I know the effects of ear fatigue make your ears tired and you want to put down the headphones. You want to turn everything off...you want silence. I do remember studying ear fatigue and I understand our brain has to work overtime to compensate and fill in the gaps that are missing. For instance, if there is little or no bass, our brain inserts it in there.

What I am speaking about is more about just being so close to the music we love and it just brings us to a place of absolute audio pleasure, we are able to relax our brain. Like our brain doesn't have to fill in any gaps and can just relax.

Sorry if my post sounds drug induced, I just want to see if anyone else gets physically tired like me when listening to a hi-fi setup?

 
I've been building my system up since 1970 and yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I've always thought of it as a semi-comatose state that good music puts me in.  Believe me, you're not imagining it and you're not alone either.

 

[artur9]

..... I find that listening to my high fidelity setup makes my brain incredibly relaxed. It is like it un-kinks things up there. I swear it must be messing with my brainwaves or something. And it makes me tired.

....

Sorry if my post sounds drug induced, I just want to see if anyone else gets physically tired like me when listening to a hi-fi setup?

this about compressed music stripping all the positive feelings from the instruments.  The AES link on that page no longer works.  Haven't seen this mentioned anyway.
 
Maybe Manhattan will restore the happy to our music?

 

[rtaylor76]

I saw the AES findings on the effects on MP3's and happiness. I think they are hitting on something.

My only guess is that anything less than hi-fi playback causes some sort of dissonance. And that dissonance must affect the flight or fight system on an extremely minute level. The closer to "real" we get must have to opposite effect and we let our guard down.

"Relaxed state" is the best way to describe the experience. It seems Iam not the only one with this experience. I would imagine the "all analog all the time guys" might say something similar.

Speaking of analog, it surprises me (although it really should not) how most multibit decoders have very analog like sound qualities and the more sophisticated the multibit DAC, the more analog like the experience is.

 

[ScottFree]

..... I find that listening to my high fidelity setup makes my brain incredibly relaxed. It is like it un-kinks things up there. I swear it must be messing with my brainwaves or something. And it makes me tired.

....

Sorry if my post sounds drug induced, I just want to see if anyone else gets physically tired like me when listening to a hi-fi setup?

This also this about compressed music stripping all the positive feelings from the instruments.  The AES link on that page no longer works.  Haven't seen this mentioned anyway.
 
Maybe Manhattan will restore the happy to our music?

[VIDEO]https://youtu.be/d-diB65scQU[/VIDEO]


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[madwolfa]

  Maybe Manhattan will restore the happy to our music?

 
What's wrong with good ol' drugs and alcohol?

 

[watchnerd]

   
What's wrong with good ol' drugs and alcohol?

 
No kidding.
 
Around here, pharmaceutical weed is about $16/gram.  Adds about $10,000 to the perceived value of my system.  
 
And it cures audiophilia nervosa.