grandmike
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Now just to quote that has been mentioned here , first off lets be a bit critical. Both Sound Vision and Cnet have concern about the comfort issues. Specially Cnet which I believe described spot on for those of us who is experiencing the problem. Apart from GIZMODO who actually mentioned " You can wear them for HOURS with ZERO strain" <-- which is a highly doubtable statement. With that said, I do not think they made the right choice initially in terms of comfort for the greatest amount of people.
Again , while adjusting headband might still be acceptable for some but placing tissue for whatever reasons does not justify the 300 dollar pricetag. Bearing in mind that for comfort both the headband and the pad goes hand in hand.
I believe among all periods, NOW is the TIME to rise this issue and bring it up to attention as it is still under R&D and before mass production stage.
Personally I think just by adding a few mm in size overall and a denser pad/foam may fix the comfort problem as for the sound they will have to find a way to make do.
Headphone should be comfortable no matter where, what or when they are used for. Being a runner myself , I will not even run a few K in this let alone marathons simply by the weight of it as mentioned by sound vision review. As for the aesthetics or you so call the fashion. I do not think a few mm would change much in the overall "fashion" of it . It's like having a normal BMW 3 series and an M3 . Think of the new ear pad as a wider and thicker tyres, in fact the M3 even looks cooler
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Hope this helps.
it's all about the sound and remember THE FIT IS THE SOUND. If you look at how many editor's choice awards and praise we have won (Sound Vision, CNET, Pop Sci, Engadget, Gizmodo to name a few), we made the right choice for the greatest amount of people and most put in their reviews how comfortable they are. Plus you can adjust the headband by bending it outwards if it is too tight out of the box.
The larger pads SOUNDED BAD to me and our small test group. Very bloated and not enough seperation. The Crossfade LP was the highest ranked consumer headphone by customer satisfaction in the world, so we slightly modded that size and tested dozens of variations in fact using various sizes to balance comfort/sound/fit. The size now DOES fit the majority of users comfortably and achieves our goal of greatest sound for greatest amount of people.
For the XL, it won't be delayed much longer, the first of the NEWER prototypes are done in two days. After we test and green-light it, it takes about 6 weeks to build. But if this size isn't right, we'll try again and it'll be about another 2 weeks.
Remember the headband can be used alternatively for less pressure as it wears in or you can slightly bend it outwards like adjusting the bridge on glasses.
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There we go again , it seems that quite a number of us have undoubtedly have comfort issues with this headphone. The M 100 is a GREAT headphone but with this pressing issue for some of us I am beginning to think it is kind of annoying judging by the premium pricetag on this headphone- Just an opinion. For those who have NO comfort issues , GOOD FOR YOU ! am raising this issue for those who does - No hard feelings please.
Despite Val did mentioned "The Fit is the Sound" I have to agree to disagree . Based on the fact that it is not that simple , lets take it up a notch . Say if one is placed in a 3ft x 3ft room with top of the range sound system, good acoustics: eg foamed walls and etc, with a wood stool . It might sound AWSOME but I believe one will not stay there for long. To put it in a more simple manner The FIT alone will not "CUT it" for a good listening experience. ACOUSTICS does play a big part in this.
Again to further break it down. The FIT "MIGHT" be the SOUND but may I add the ACOUSTICS is the COMFORT, THE SOUND, and ultimately determines the OVERALL LISTENING EXPERIENCE...
Let this be an encouragement and one of the pressing criteria to improve this great piece of KIT. Am aware the new XL ear cup is coming up/under R&D lets hope it will solve our dilemma and hopefully no MOD needed this time round.
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I didn't think this issue needed to be raised again. A new pad is being developed.
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Or stiffer padding material.
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If I had my LPs, i would contribute a picture. They did pin my ears back against my head. With the LPs I had (have somewhere), I basically would get an album out of them before needing to give my cartilage in my ears a break. Headband got to me too. Now, maybe it's good to take a break after that much listening, I mean people choose pleasurable activities over their health all the time. However, I usually play music during "marathons" at a "just above background volume" level so I don't think I'm doing much worse damage (maybe less) than just walking around an urban environment, and sometimes when I'm working on a computer, menial task, or home from work, I just get bored and music helps fill the time and sometimes add a little context.
I think "the fit is the sound" indeed was a design principle of the V-MODA pads & headphones, but another aspect I think people are ignoring is the look/fashion of it. A lot of headphones, ESPECIALLY circumaurals, stick out pretty far from the head, are quite substantially large looking in relation to the head, and can look silly. The Crossfades and the M-100 are some of the least awkward looking on the head (if they aren't too flashy with chrome for your taste), and I think a big part of that is they don't stick out very far. So, that is another aspect of the headphone's design: a circumaural compact enough to wear in public.
Overall, I think there are pros and cons, and I consider V-MODA's headphones suited for walk-about and portable use, not reference home use and comfort.
P.S. A 3ft x 3ft room? Thanks for making me feel claustrophobic XD
Now just to quote that has been mentioned here , first off lets be a bit critical. Both Sound Vision and Cnet have concern about the comfort issues. Specially Cnet which I believe described spot on for those of us who is experiencing the problem. Apart from GIZMODO who actually mentioned " You can wear them for HOURS with ZERO strain" <-- which is a highly doubtable statement. With that said, I do not think they made the right choice initially in terms of comfort for the greatest amount of people.
Again , while adjusting headband might still be acceptable for some but placing tissue for whatever reasons does not justify the 300 dollar pricetag. Bearing in mind that for comfort both the headband and the pad goes hand in hand.
I believe among all periods, NOW is the TIME to rise this issue and bring it up to attention as it is still under R&D and before mass production stage.
Personally I think just by adding a few mm in size overall and a denser pad/foam may fix the comfort problem as for the sound they will have to find a way to make do.
Headphone should be comfortable no matter where, what or when they are used for. Being a runner myself , I will not even run a few K in this let alone marathons simply by the weight of it as mentioned by sound vision review. As for the aesthetics or you so call the fashion. I do not think a few mm would change much in the overall "fashion" of it . It's like having a normal BMW 3 series and an M3 . Think of the new ear pad as a wider and thicker tyres, in fact the M3 even looks cooler
Hope this helps.