[proedros]

Basically, very quick pros / cons 1Plius2 vs SE846

1Plus2 Pros:

Much better treble / top end definition, the SE846 sound blurred / smeared in comparison
More musical generally
Better cohesion of sound (which is odd, considering hybrid vs all BA)
Better PraT
Better soundstage
No hiss (

)

SE846 Pros:

No wind noise (this is a killer for me after six months of exclusive SE846 usage)
Less cable microphonics
No worries about the units coming detached from the cable (this pair of 1Plus2 I have here has the loose right hand connection I have seen mentioned here)
Better isolation (subjective, but with the 1Plus2, using more isolating tips seems to crush that delicious treble)
Tunable (not that much of a pro, seeing that the 1Plus2 seems to have tonality bang on for my liking!)

I will go into further detail in the future when I've had the 1Plus2 for longer than the two weeks I've had them so far, however despite the SE846 having quite a few pros (one of them being fundamentally important - not wanting to lose the actual units!) - I absolutely love the music that the 1Plus2 gently trickle into my ears - fantastic

 
 
in other words , 1plus2 DESTROYS 846 (which we know it is a terribly overrated iem, especially if you hear some other better iems like 1plus2 or K3003)

thanx for your honest take

 

[Kerouac]

Basically, very quick pros / cons 1Plius2 vs SE846

1Plus2 Pros:

Much better treble / top end definition, the SE846 sound blurred / smeared in comparison
More musical generally
Better cohesion of sound (which is odd, considering hybrid vs all BA)
Better PraT
Better soundstage
No hiss (

)

SE846 Pros:

No wind noise (this is a killer for me after six months of exclusive SE846 usage)
Less cable microphonics
No worries about the units coming detached from the cable (this pair of 1Plus2 I have here has the loose right hand connection I have seen mentioned here)
Better isolation (subjective, but with the 1Plus2, using more isolating tips seems to crush that delicious treble)
Tunable (not that much of a pro, seeing that the 1Plus2 seems to have tonality bang on for my liking!)

I will go into further detail in the future when I've had the 1Plus2 for longer than the two weeks I've had them so far, however despite the SE846 having quite a few pros (one of them being fundamentally important - not wanting to lose the actual units!) - I absolutely love the music that the 1Plus2 gently trickle into my ears - fantastic

Thanks for your ''quick'' 1p2 vs SE846 impression and now I understand the ''things you detest'' on your 1p2 and why I couldn't find them myself:
 

1. Wind noise => I almost never take them out of the house
2. Microphonics => I have my Silver Widow on the 1p2 (guess you have yours on the SE846). Almost no microphonics + SW has great synergy with the 1p2 imo
3. The connection on my 1p2 is save and secure => doesn't detache easily and never came loose out of itself
4. Isolation/seal/fit is very good for me with JVC (M) Spiral Dot tips...I can wear the 1p2 for hours without hardly noticing it's in my ears
5. So, only one left: tunable...no it isn't, but I don't consider it a big loss as I also like the soundsignature as it is...

 
I've also tried somebody else's SE846 some months ago (with my DX90) and I must say that I liked it a lot. I think the owner said he had the blue filter on it. Although I still prefered the 1p2, I thought the SE846 came pretty close and surely wasn't destroyed (like proedros wrote) by it imo.
 
Btw, nice to read that with X5+Chord Hugo (high on my wishlist) there's also no hiss...

 

[Duncan]

Spoiler

Thanks for your ''quick'' 1p2 vs SE846 impression and now I understand the ''things you detest'' on your 1p2 and why I couldn't find them myself:


 

• 
  Wind noise => I almost never take them out of the house
  
  
  
• 
  Microphonics => I have my Silver Widow on the 1p2 (guess you have yours on the SE846). Almost no microphonics + SW has great synergy with the 1p2 imo
  
  
  
• 
  The connection on my 1p2 is save and secure => doesn't detache easily and never came loose out of itself
  
  
  
• 
  Isolation/seal/fit is very good for me with JVC (M) Spiral Dot tips...I can wear the 1p2 for hours without hardly noticing it's in my ears
  
  
  
• 
  So, only one left: tunable...no it isn't, but I don't consider it a big loss as I also like the soundsignature as it is...
  
  
  

 


I've also tried somebody else's SE846 some months ago (with my DX90) and I must say that I liked it a lot. I think the owner said he had the blue filter on it. Although I still prefered the 1p2, I thought the SE846 came pretty close and surely wasn't destroyed (like proedros wrote) by it imo.


 


Btw, nice to read that with X5+Chord Hugo (high on my wishlist) there's also no hiss...

Confirmed, ZERO hiss on Hugo

 

[axax]

Cable is so important especially for 1plus2.I use ref 1's silver gold cable and performance is much better than old silver gold.Probably uber is another level.

 

[zniper2984]

Uber further improve things that you love with 1plus2.

 

[Duncan]

Uber further improve things that you love with 1plus2.

As does Sony ZX2 vs some of my other gear

Excited by this union

 

[CraftyClown]

I've just purchased some 1plus2s from another head-fi member as a replacement for my Heir 8a customs. Not through choice if im honest, but because one side of my customs became detached whilst I was out and I lost it!!! Totally gutted!!! They were my pride and joy
 
Anyway, I've been considering the 1plus2s for a while, so now's my chance. I'll be pairing them with my Toxic silver widow balanced cable, so hopefully that will be a nice match
 
Can anyone suggest a good place to order Spiral dots from in the UK? I've had a good look around, but I've not found a reseller

 

[H20Fidelity]

  I've just purchased some 1plus2s from another head-fi member as a replacement for my Heir 8a customs. Not through choice if im honest, but because one side of my customs became detached whilst I was out and I lost it!!! Totally gutted!!! They were my pride and joy
 
Anyway, I've been considering the 1plus2s for a while, so now's my chance. I'll be pairing them with my Toxic silver widow balanced cable, so hopefully that will be a nice match
 
Can anyone suggest a good place to order Spiral dots from in the UK? I've had a good look around, but I've not found a reseller

 
Sorry to hear about your customs. I would be pretty devastated about that. 
 
My 1Plus2 are on their way to me. For me its going to hit the wallet pretty hard, but I can only think how much money it should save in future purchases with some luck. My little collection is basically complete bare this final piece.
 
Cannot advise on any UK sellers but ebay USA has them.
 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR4.TRC1.A0.H0.Xspiral%20dot%20tips.TRS0&_nkw=spiral%20dot%20tips&_sacat=0#item27fe8cd091

 

[davidcotton]

My little collection is basically complete

Ah ha ha hahahah ha ha!
 
Oh wait, you're serious?
 
Ha ha ha hahaha!
 
This is headfi, the collection is never complete

 

[H20Fidelity]

Ah ha ha hahahah ha ha!

Oh wait, you're serious?

Ha ha ha hahaha!

This is headfi, the collection is never complete

Yup! This is it! The grande finale, when I turn my back with a little hankie knapsack hanging off a stick walking into the sunset.

Credits rolling, everyone applauding. This is the Boom Shankar.

H20Retirement - plan.

.

 

[CraftyClown]

   
Sorry to hear about your customs. I would be pretty devastated about that. 
 
My 1Plus2 are on their way to me. For me its going to hit the wallet pretty hard, but I can only think how much money it should save in future purchases with some luck. My little collection is basically complete bare this final piece.
 
Cannot advise on any UK sellers but ebay USA has them.
 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR4.TRC1.A0.H0.Xspiral%20dot%20tips.TRS0&_nkw=spiral%20dot%20tips&_sacat=0#item27fe8cd091

 
Cheers mate,
 
I felt physicaly sick when I realised what had happened
 
Oh well. Onwards and upwards...

 

[H20Fidelity]

   
Cheers mate,
 
I felt physicaly sick when I realised what had happened
 
Oh well. Onwards and upwards...

 
I tried Spiral Dot tips today actually on 1Plus2. I think they give some of the best fitting I've had, really snug, tight, well sealed. It also does grand things to the soundstage, spreads it out opening up the presentation. What I didn't like was a slight emphasis in vocal sibilance showing up at times. Also, I prefer something a little more intimate in the mids, rather than that explosive stage which kind of takes over pushing the mids back for me. Keep in mind everyone's ears are different, the depth, seal etc its going to vary between users.
 
I would give them 10/10 for the fit though.

 

[walbum4262]

I just received a pair of spiral dots and I just have to say those spirals make the sound of the 1+2 just sound amazing.

I'm even thinking about keeping them if the fit is good enough for 6 to 7 hours use

/cheers to dopaminer for sending the spirals for me

 

[burtomr]

 
I tried Spiral Dot tips today actually on 1Plus2. I think they give some of the best fitting I've had, really snug, tight, well sealed. It also does grand things to the soundstage, spreads it out opening up the presentation.
 
I would give them 10/10 for the fit though.

I just received a pair of spiral dots and I just have to say those spirals make the sound of the 1+2 just sound amazing.

I'm even thinking about keeping them if the fit is good enough for 6 to 7 hours use

/cheers to dopaminer for sending the spirals for me

 
We all need to thank Lee730 for the Spiral Dot 'discovery'...he's the one who started the recommendation awhile ago. Thanks Jimmy!

 

[Kerouac]

Imo Spiral Dot tips work great on other iems also.
Last year I got them with a JVC FX650 that I bought on the classifieds. When I tried them on my RTi1 I also heard a big improvement and now I use them on both my 1Plus2 and XBA-Z5...
 
Still wondering how they compare to Spinfits though...should order/try those also sometimes I guess...