Toxic Cables - Impressions and Discussion Thread
Mar 23, 2018 at 11:27 PM Post #9,901 of 10,312
Just to share some photos of my BW22 V2 for HD800s, looks awesome.

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Extremely nice, how do they pair with the 800? I need an upgrade cable for mine but was thinking copper unless I can find silver with a nice full body to it. What does this cable run? Do they have an 8 core version?
 
Mar 23, 2018 at 11:53 PM Post #9,902 of 10,312
Yes, 64 Audio A12.
I was just about to buy Leonidas, but the price is very high - that's why I pulled the trigger for SW22.
I forgot to mention that I use the Adel B1 module to pair with SW22. The B1 module is similar to the Apex m15 module. I sometimes use the Hansound Zen 8 copper cable if I want more punch in my music.

I figure if you use Apex m20 or Adel s1 module, you probably want to avoid most copper cables as there will probably be too much bass. Maybe Toxic BW will be another good choice here. Reading the 64 audio forum, seems like a lot of people like to pair their IEMs with various copper cables.
 
Mar 24, 2018 at 3:03 PM Post #9,903 of 10,312
Extremely nice, how do they pair with the 800? I need an upgrade cable for mine but was thinking copper unless I can find silver with a nice full body to it. What does this cable run? Do they have an 8 core version?
They do have an 8 wire version, I'm using it with my HD700. You will need to email Frank to place an order for it though.
 
Mar 24, 2018 at 3:18 PM Post #9,904 of 10,312
I figure if you use Apex m20 or Adel s1 module, you probably want to avoid most copper cables as there will probably be too much bass. Maybe Toxic BW will be another good choice here. Reading the 64 audio forum, seems like a lot of people like to pair their IEMs with various copper cables.

Yes, I use Apex M20 module. 64 Audio A12 are rather bassy ones. I will see what the pure silver do with the sound (if it does anything). From what I read I think there is no longer rule that copper is more bassy and silver more treble. In general I don't like too much treble (that's why I have got A12). I will be able to assess silver cable in 3-4 months.
 
Mar 25, 2018 at 10:07 AM Post #9,905 of 10,312
Yes, I use Apex M20 module. 64 Audio A12 are rather bassy ones. I will see what the pure silver do with the sound (if it does anything). From what I read I think there is no longer rule that copper is more bassy and silver more treble. In general I don't like too much treble (that's why I have got A12). I will be able to assess silver cable in 3-4 months.
I agree, some copper and silver cables nowadays are tuned well enough to avoid these characteristics. I think SW has a hint of gold in it so I wouldn't consider them pure silver. Toxic Hydra is the pure silver cable here.
 
Mar 26, 2018 at 12:37 AM Post #9,906 of 10,312
I agree, some copper and silver cables nowadays are tuned well enough to avoid these characteristics. I think SW has a hint of gold in it so I wouldn't consider them pure silver. Toxic Hydra is the pure silver cable here.

Would anybody be able to share a comparison between the Toxic Hydra and the Silver Widow for IEMs?
 
Mar 26, 2018 at 10:24 AM Post #9,907 of 10,312
@Toxic Cables Can Medusa17 use the fitear socket? someone said it can't as the cable is too big for the tiny hole.
 
Mar 27, 2018 at 9:11 PM Post #9,909 of 10,312
a couple of questions. how would you compare the Hydra 18 and the 22 for iems in terms of sound? also, is the black sofy (soft?) nylon sleeving a cloth sleeving? what does it look like? is each wire individually sleeved?
 
Apr 3, 2018 at 9:42 AM Post #9,910 of 10,312
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just received my SW22 after a long 4 months wait
the cable is so flexible that I'm afraid it will snap when I remove my custom from my ears lol...
Can't describe the sound, its just that good...

and damn...frank doesn't give the box anymore? xD
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Apr 3, 2018 at 5:02 PM Post #9,912 of 10,312
Anybody know how long it takes frank to Answer Emails sent Email 5 days ago without reply i know its been the Easter break but had nothing today or just before Easter?
You see i sent him an e-mail almost one month ago and a pm here somewhat later but i haven't gotten any response yet so don't be too optimistic. Hope he finds some time to answer soon!
 
Apr 3, 2018 at 6:15 PM Post #9,913 of 10,312
Thanks for reply no problem ill go elsewhere.I very much appreciate people get busy but to advertise on his website to Email him and then not respond. Doesn't give me much faith in what he does even though hes highly respected customer service comes with good reputation
 
Apr 4, 2018 at 3:28 AM Post #9,915 of 10,312
Hi NickNack

Just a thought but have you considered making them yourself ? It is only really putting two components together (Wire and connector) and it can be really rewarding. I looked at the time to deliver and the price and was a bit shocked too. So I went to Franks DIY section and ordered 18Ft of Wire and some connectors. Frank threw in the solder for free. He delivered the parts in days.

My first cable (Practice) used his cheapest copper wire balanced for the Oppo PM3's to my AK70MkII, cost around £35. Took me 3 hours to make. My second for Shure SE535's to my AK70MkII balanced took 4 hours to make With Silver wire and cost around £125. Its fun and quick and saves you a load of money.

I used Silver Poison 26AWG for the IEM cable (Really flexible) 18 feet of cable gets you about 3ft 6 inches of finished cable.

I used the Scorpion cable for the Oppo's.

I am happy to give you pointers if you think it worth a go but it dident take much reserch to find out how. If you have never solderd that is easy too an hous practice on some junk wire and you will have it down.

Here is a picture of the finished cable:

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Hope this is usful.

Max
 

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