[surfgeorge]

You will need Menubus (to route the plugins to the correct drivers) and then use Fabfilter for the PEQ. Fab does seem like a paid programme though...

He also mentioned "AULab" so you could look into that. Seems free.

With ios phones its a lost cause

Thanks a million!
Wow, seems tricky on MAC. Fabfilter costs like €150 and AU Lab looks like it is free but not as straight forward as the Equaliser APO.
Looks like I need to try getting it running on my company Windows laptop

 

[griga]

Hi.

On my macbook Im using https://www.menubus.audio/ and AU plugins.
It’s no longer supported but it was the best i could find. It works as a system wide output so you can use it with any application.

I didn't find any free or cheap parametric EQ for Mac OS Mojave, so I just implemented a rough approximation of the QDC 4SS parameters on my HiBy R3 which feeds the Chord Mojo... NICE!
Now the question remains, what to use on MAC or iOS+Tidal to implement the PEQ settings?
Apologies - I have avoided EQ so far, but this looks promising.

Nice job, Toranku!!

 

[Fargeg]

With ios phones its a lost cause

A jailbreak just got released for the latest version of iOS: https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/gpdl2p/news_v500_is_now_out_for_all_devices_on_ios/

And you can install EQE from this repo afterwards: http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.r333d.eqe/

Of course, jailbreaking before learning what to do is probably a bad idea.

Toranku target EQ settings for my qdc IEMs:


It's not bad, but sounds a bit too upper mid forward for me. The Crinacle target fits my personal tastes better.

 

[newtophones07]

Would it be possible to post a parametric eq model for the itsfit fusion, Thanks.

 

[toranku]

Would it be possible to post a parametric eq model for the itsfit fusion, Thanks.

Check the drive, I just came up with one and uploaded it. You'll need to play around with the 10th band though. The Fusion has some obvious driver resonance occurring at ~8880hz and you might need to reduce the band further. Go with what sounds best in that band.

 

[surfgeorge]

Have managed to install Eqalizer APO and the Peace GUI on the work PC and get the presets working.
Running Tidal on the PC, then via micro-USB to the CHORD Mojo.
I tested the QDC 4SS, the Sony EX1000 and for comparison the modded JVC FD02 (understanding that the filter preset is for the unmodded FD02...)
One thing I perceive is that the soundstage kind of collapses when I switch on the EQ, most clearly with the QDC 4SS, but also with the EX1000.
The sound gets one dimensional and center focused.

Subjectively I like the filter with the 4SS, it nicely cleans up the sound and increases clarity. Works really well! Slightly hot in the treble, but still like it.
(I also played with the IER-M9 preset and the 4SS and liked it too, a nice cleaning up of the mid bass)

On the EX1000 I liked the preset with Hans Zimmer but with acoustic music I found the treble too sizzly.

Somehow this EQ-ing seems to work well with the 4SS BA IEM, but the compensation of the treble spikes on the EX1000 doesn't work that well IMO.
I also once again learned to appreciate the tuning and SQ of the modded JVC FD02.

No real conclusions, but an interesting experiment.
I consider it more a tool for experimenting with frequency reponses rather than a permanent fix for changing the sound signature of an IEM, but as such a tool it is really valuable!

Big thumbs up!!

 

[newtophones07]

Check the drive, I just came up with one and uploaded it. You'll need to play around with the 10th band though. The Fusion has some obvious driver resonance occurring at ~8880hz and you might need to reduce the band further. Go with what sounds best in that band.

Thanks a ton!!

 

[toranku]

Have managed to install Eqalizer APO and the Peace GUI on the work PC and get the presets working.
Running Tidal on the PC, then via micro-USB to the CHORD Mojo.
I tested the QDC 4SS, the Sony EX1000 and for comparison the modded JVC FD02 (understanding that the filter preset is for the unmodded FD02...)
One thing I perceive is that the soundstage kind of collapses when I switch on the EQ, most clearly with the QDC 4SS, but also with the EX1000.
The sound gets one dimensional and center focused.

Subjectively I like the filter with the 4SS, it nicely cleans up the sound and increases clarity. Works really well! Slightly hot in the treble, but still like it.
(I also played with the IER-M9 preset and the 4SS and liked it too, a nice cleaning up of the mid bass)

On the EX1000 I liked the preset with Hans Zimmer but with acoustic music I found the treble too sizzly.

Somehow this EQ-ing seems to work well with the 4SS BA IEM, but the compensation of the treble spikes on the EX1000 doesn't work that well IMO.
I also once again learned to appreciate the tuning and SQ of the modded JVC FD02.

No real conclusions, but an interesting experiment.
I consider it more a tool for experimenting with frequency reponses rather than a permanent fix for changing the sound signature of an IEM, but as such a tool it is really valuable!

Big thumbs up!!

Thank you for the feedback! You're absolutely right that this is just a experiment. For the future I'm looking to solidify the EQ settings by measuring and personally listening and adjusting the filters.

Anecdotally, do you feel that all the EQ settings you have tried ended up with a somewhat similar tone?

 

[toranku]

Thanks a ton!!

Let me know how it sounds

 

[tiamor988]

S8 is slightly better imo. Very different signatures but the S8 is greater on a technical front. Tonality wise I prefer S8Z.

But of course since you're able to try them out (hopefully soon), I'd like to hear your take.

Not so soon I guess. MCO still not allow interstate travel and starspicker limit how many unit you can audition cause of Covid. I want to try as many as I can before making a purchase because this is my first midfi IEMs. Don't want to regret my purchase.

I'll go there as soon as everything dial down. Hopefully by then, starspicker is having a sale. Cheers

 

[M3NTAL]

The Andromeda Gold filter is pretty solid. My personal impression is there is something a little off in the sibilant region. I like the rest of what is going on for a safe tuning.

 

[emptymt]

Hi @toranku, in your experience, what would be the best IEM for Metal?

Most important part is guitars and vocals for me. Some IEM has great reputations for this type of music, but i'm not ballsy enough to pay the price yet.
Looking around for more Metal music lovers input.

example Artist/Music that I like:
Opeth
Devin Townsend
Porcupine Tree
Draconian
Insomnium
Cynic
Mega man X OST

 

[buonassi]

Update for the compensation curves:

I tested Fibae 7 custom, Oriveti OH500, and Moondrop Starfield. All turned out equally good and sounded "similar" enough to one another post "tork EQ". Clearly, given driver configs, I could discern differences quite easily, but the overall balance of tone was relatively equal.

To note: Q values (filter width adjustments) aren't standard across EQ programs. The Q values in Neutron for example are 80% the value of what they are in FabFilter ProQ2 (which I own). So a Q of 1 in FabFilter = 0.8 in Neutron. Simple math gets you there.

I suspect RoomEQ Wizard / Equalizer APO use Q values closer to Fab Filter, but I can't be sure as I don't have access to a windows computer. I wonder if BW (butterworth filter) values would standardize the width?

edit: actually BW is for 'bandwidth' , not butterworth as I surmised. So I think listing the BW for the filters will also be helfpul. I'd be willing to pilot 3 earphones and show the resulting curves to see if they match (or come close to) APO curve.

 

[toranku]

The Andromeda Gold filter is pretty solid. My personal impression is there is something a little off in the sibilant region. I like the rest of what is going on for a safe tuning.

Thanks for the feedback - I'm quite curious myself as to how close the prediction usually is in the treble region. Only 1 way to find out.

Hi @toranku, in your experience, what would be the best IEM for Metal?

Most important part is guitars and vocals for me. Some IEM has great reputations for this type of music, but i'm not ballsy enough to pay the price yet.
Looking around for more Metal music lovers input.

example Artist/Music that I like:
Opeth
Devin Townsend
Porcupine Tree
Draconian
Insomnium
Cynic
Mega man X OST

I see this as quite a subjective question. I personally like my metal with more uppermid and subbass focused earphones while I know some people like it with a bass boost. It's really quite subjective so I hesitate from recommending anything. I think it's best if you figure out what instruments you want to hear more vs against your own reference earphones.

In general I also try not to recommend expensive earphones cuz everyone does hear differently and have different preferences. Most people on this forum have no access to demo earphones but to buy them.

We do share similar musical artist preferences though

Update for the compensation curves:

I tested Fibae 7 custom, Oriveti OH500, and Moondrop Starfield. All turned out equally good and sounded "similar" enough to one another post "tork EQ". Clearly, given driver configs, I could discern differences quite easily, but the overall balance of tone was relatively equal.

To note: Q values (filter width adjustments) aren't standard across EQ programs. The Q values in Neutron for example are 80% the value of what they are in FabFilter ProQ2 (which I own). So a Q of 1 in FabFilter = 0.8 in Neutron. Simple math gets you there.

I suspect RoomEQ Wizard / Equalizer APO use Q values closer to Fab Filter, but I can't be sure as I don't have access to a windows computer. I wonder if BW (butterworth filter) values would standardize the width?

edit: actually BW is for 'bandwidth' , not butterworth as I surmised. So I think listing the BW for the filters will also be helfpul. I'd be willing to pilot 3 earphones and show the resulting curves to see if they match (or come close to) APO curve.

Thabks for chiming in on the tone! Appreciate it. I was not aware of that EQ Q factor tidbit...I'll have to look further into this. Was under the impression that parameters like this are all standardised

 

[Skylaze]

Would you consider M9 tonaly similar with N3 with less bass? Or what you consider an upgrade from N3 with less midbass and better technicality? Thanx